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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    I'ld say a 1 to 50 terrorist to civilian ratio is to high a price for that.
    only somebody really naive believes that ratio - or somebody who automatically thinks ill of the United States.
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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    If you don't figure out why there are terrorists you'll be killing forever.

    That is not an sound economic or logical conclusion to come to.
    So by that logic, we should have conducted an in-depth analysis of why the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor before actually killing them?

    There are all kinds of reasons for terrorists. Most of them have to do with the teachings of radical Islam and this stupid notion - fed to them by the people who never actually are in danger themselves - that if they can just kill enough foreigners they can establish their 14th century world here in the 21st century.
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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Did you feel this same way when the President used drones to kill terrorist in Pakistan?

    You guys crack me up! You really do!!

    You complain about radical Muslim extremist - Islamists - taking root using foreign bases to plot their next attack against the US, but when the President root them out in hotbed areas like Yemen, you suddenly go with the "innocent people could get hurt" line. Oh, but wait! Wasn't this the same criticism levelled at former Pres. Clinton when his Administration decided not to go after OBL until it was too late? (Re: collateral damange...last minute missle strike that missed)

    Before, President Obama couldn't do enough to take the fight to the terrorist. Now, he's doing too much? You people make me laugh! ...
    You need a reality check. First, Clinton did not shoot the missile at bin Laden for political reasons. An important politician was with bin Laden at the time and would have been killed, thus hurting our relationship with that country. Second, most of the drone strikes are "signature strikes" which is a fancy way of saying, "we don't exactly know who it is, but we're going to strike because they might be a bad person." That's not a good reason to commit an act of war on a country that has not attacked us in violation of their air space. Third, we have not declared war on either Pakistan or Yemen. Yet we engage in acts of war against them. I know we've skirted the constitutional requirement that Congress authorize war in recent history, but that doesn't make it right. Fourth, it is indeed a big deal if we hurt and kill innocent people. Frankly, I'm appalled at the number of Americans I encounter who aren't absolutely outraged by this. It's wrong. It's immoral. But even if you were too sick to care about that, it's also not in our interests. When we murder these people, we only help the terrorists. We're their best propaganda weapon. When people in these regions are rightfully outraged, we only help al Quaida to recruit more terrorists. Maybe we kill one terrorist along with 50 other innocent people. Maybe we don't. Maybe they're all innocent people. Either way, the result is the recruitment of hundreds more al Quaida members. Another 9/11 is coming thanks to this. When it happens, don't act shocked. Don't wonder, "Why do they hate us?" They hate us because we kill their family members. If another country did this to us, you would be outraged. Don't claim you wouldn't be. What if a terrorist like Muhammad Atta did slip into the United States and Iran killed him with a drone? You okay with that? What if in that strike, Iran killed your mother? Your wife? Your daughter? Your son? Your sister? You okay with all of that? It's a yes or a no question. Please answer. Any answer that doesn't include a "yes" or a "no" is non-responsive.

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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    And, btw, your use of the laugh icon in response to people being murdered makes me sick.

    "We're murdering innocent civilians."
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    Yes, how hilarious. I'd bet your would be rolling over in hysterical laughter if it were your family member.

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    I think some of you don't understand what exactly we're doing to innocent people over there. You shout out these lines of "kill them all" and it makes me ill. People who have nothing wrong at all. They live innocent lives and happen to be in Pakistan. They had lives just like we do here...went work...sent their kids to school...were living breathing human beings for Gods sake!

    We cannot and should not go to their level of terror. Who is the terrorist over there? The recruit who is fighting because his family was killed, or the country randomly killing?

    For every one terror suspect we take out...how many join their groups of thoughts of revenge for killing their family?

    Let me put it this way.....


    LOOK AT THIS PICTURE!!


    drone-strike-by-obama-children-killed.jpg



    If those were YOUR kids...what would you do? What thoughts would be going through your heads?!

    Don't be so damn heartless. Killing innocent people is wrong regardless of how many....it is wrong to kill one!
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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    I think some of you don't understand what exactly we're doing to innocent people over there. You shout out these lines of "kill them all" and it makes me ill. People who have nothing wrong at all. They live innocent lives and happen to be in Pakistan. They had lives just like we do here...went work...sent their kids to school...were living breathing human beings for Gods sake!

    We cannot and should not go to their level of terror. Who is the terrorist over there? The recruit who is fighting because his family was killed, or the country randomly killing?

    For every one terror suspect we take out...how many join their groups of thoughts of revenge for killing their family?

    Let me put it this way.....


    LOOK AT THIS PICTURE!!


    drone-strike-by-obama-children-killed.jpg



    If those were YOUR kids...what would you do? What thoughts would be going through your heads?!

    Don't be so damn heartless. Killing innocent people is wrong regardless of how many....it is wrong to kill one!
    before i deployed i supported drone strikes.after i deployed i saw first hand what they did to our war effort,our reputation and humanity.as much as bush was hated he opposeddrone strikesin foriegn countries,and within good reason.democrats demonized mccain in 08 for not wanting touse drones against pakistan,but in realit every drone strike against any sovereign nation is an open declaration of war,by international law,obama has started more wars than bush in 4 years than bush did in 8,.yet its ok because a D is next to his name.,


    why are we supporting illegal wars and increasing alquaeda recruitment when people should oppose wrong despite which party they affilliate with.
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