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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    So we just leave the terrorist to do their thing?
    How about just killing the terrorists without killing everyone else in sight? The killing of Osama Bin Laden is an example of how terrorists could be killed by other means without the civillian casualties. Its also worth arming those fighting these people in Pakistan and Yemen and addressing state failure in these two countries.

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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    So we just leave the terrorist to do their thing?
    No, we go and arrest them. I nominate everybody opposed to the drone strikes to serve in the posse that goes to these hellholes and effectuates the arrest.
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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Well, I think that first we need to have a deep and honest discussion about why people turn to terrorism and why they hate America so much (and it ain't because they "hate our freedoms" or any nonsense like that). That would be a serious first step in the right direction.
    I don't care why they hate us, although I expect I could come up with reasons far different from yours. When your house is on fire, you don't take the time to figure out how the fire started. You put out the fire.

    Kill them.
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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    How about just killing the terrorists without killing everyone else in sight? The killing of Osama Bin Laden is an example of how terrorists could be killed by other means without the civillian casualties. Its also worth arming those fighting these people in Pakistan and Yemen and addressing state failure in these two countries.
    So you're perfectly willing to put american lives at risk in order to kill terrorists? I'd much rather kill them without endangering American lives.
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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    So you're perfectly willing to put american lives at risk in order to kill terrorists? I'd much rather kill them without endangering American lives.
    I'ld say a 1 to 50 terrorist to civilian ratio is to high a price for that.

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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    No, we go and arrest them. I nominate everybody opposed to the drone strikes to serve in the posse that goes to these hellholes and effectuates the arrest.
    I'll 2nd that ...

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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    How about just killing the terrorists without killing everyone else in sight? The killing of Osama Bin Laden is an example of how terrorists could be killed by other means without the civillian casualties. Its also worth arming those fighting these people in Pakistan and Yemen and addressing state failure in these two countries.
    I think its fair to say that all of these things are occurring at whatever levels they are feasible. The former being the operative word here. Planning a complex commando raid on a single target deep inside Pakistan is a difficult task and requires confidence that the target will be stationary for a significant period of time, sometimes for weeks. It also exposes much more risk and can snowball if gone wrong. As for arming groups and providing state support we've been doing that for years and at high financial outlay, in Yemen we have handed off some of that burden to the GCC but we remain involved, in Pakistan we have been conducting an aggressive civil and economic assistance campaign as well as supporting the Pakistani military.

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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    I'ld say a 1 to 50 terrorist to civilian ratio is to high a price for that.
    But that isn't the ratio.

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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    So you're perfectly willing to put american lives at risk in order to kill terrorists? I'd much rather kill them without endangering American lives.

    But it's harder to urinate on them if we kill them with drones.

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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    I don't care why they hate us, although I expect I could come up with reasons far different from yours. When your house is on fire, you don't take the time to figure out how the fire started. You put out the fire.

    Kill them.
    If you don't figure out why there are terrorists you'll be killing forever.

    That is not an sound economic or logical conclusion to come to.

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