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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Nice dodge .. . so what you are saying .. is that you are just bitching about something .. that you have no alternate ideas on, you can't come up with a way to do it better .. . you just know (in your mind anyway) that there is a better way of doing :it
    It's a bit of bitching. But more so it is an acknowledgement that we will always be subjected to certain probabilities of crime and force which are inherent to a free state. Do you want to be free or.safe? That's what this comes down to.
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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's a bit of bitching. But more so it is an acknowledgement that we will always be subjected to certain probabilities of crime and force which are inherent to a free state. Do you want to be free or.safe? That's what this comes down to.
    I guess it depends on how you think. Myself, I can’t see a single freedom I’ve lost. What I do know besides that is that I don’t want to see bombs going off in our neighborhoods, our schools, our malls. In my opinion let terrorism go on unchecked, and we could be looking at just such things.

    I don’t think, or would hope, that anyone wants to see innocent civilians being killed, but I don’t have a ready answer on how to stop that , I mean you have terrorists that hide behind innocent civilians, they don’t have a uniform with a big red “T” on them. So until someone, anyone can come up with a better way of killing them, I’m not going to argue against the drone attacks, the alternative of just letting them go, isn’t acceptable to me.

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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    I'm kind of not kidding. If we're cool with killing innocents, then it shouldn't matter how many we kill. Think of Iran as a vast glass wasteland for example....


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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

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    I'm kind of not kidding. If we're cool with killing innocents, then it shouldn't matter how many we kill. Think of Iran as a vast glass wasteland for example....


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    I’m not to far behind you on this, I’ve said often enough, if we are going to go to war, then we go with the full might and weight of our country, to do anything less is a waste of time.

    It’s my opinion that every since WWII we have sent out men and women of the armed forces in to be killed without the intent of winning. We need to stay out of others affairs, in the case of 9/11 it should have been said to any country, okay we have good sound intel that OBL is being harbored in your country, you have X number of days to tell us where he is or turn him over to us, after that you can expect The USA to do everything and anything deemed necessary to get him.

    Show the world that when you attack the US on our soil, that we will utterly destroy you. If you have to do that once every 20 or 25 years, in my opinion it’s better then fighting an endless stream of wars with no intent on winning anything.

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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    We actually did a great job of that in the past. The first Iraq war. The post-9/11 Afghanistan overthrow of Mullah Omar. But then it whets our appetite for the bloodlust and the money-lust and we enter decade long wars that eat away at our souls. That how we got baby Bush's Iraq war and his extension of the Afghanistan war. We never learn to sat goodbye.

    Accomplish the mission and get the **** out. Use all necessary force.


    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    I’m not to far behind you on this, I’ve said often enough, if we are going to go to war, then we go with the full might and weight of our country, to do anything less is a waste of time.

    It’s my opinion that every since WWII we have sent out men and women of the armed forces in to be killed without the intent of winning. We need to stay out of others affairs, in the case of 9/11 it should have been said to any country, okay we have good sound intel that OBL is being harbored in your country, you have X number of days to tell us where he is or turn him over to us, after that you can expect The USA to do everything and anything deemed necessary to get him.

    Show the world that when you attack the US on our soil, that we will utterly destroy you. If you have to do that once every 20 or 25 years, in my opinion it’s better then fighting an endless stream of wars with no intent on winning anything.

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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by MAcc2007 View Post
    Gitmo is still open, we are still in Afghanistan, and nobel laureate President Obama is still spreading democracy the old fashion way. The only difference is the media doesn't talk about it daily like they did under Bush.
    And the only alternative we have is the Republican Party who would do all that even more.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Good for us I say. No border in this world should be safe for Al-Qaeda to hide behind.
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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    So again .. and honestly .. I'm really interested in what we should do .. how to we fight terrorist ...
    Well, I think that first we need to have a deep and honest discussion about why people turn to terrorism and why they hate America so much (and it ain't because they "hate our freedoms" or any nonsense like that). That would be a serious first step in the right direction.
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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Well, I think that first we need to have a deep and honest discussion about why people turn to terrorism and why they hate America so much (and it ain't because they "hate our freedoms" or any nonsense like that). That would be a serious first step in the right direction.
    I think its too late for that..........

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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Well, I think that first we need to have a deep and honest discussion about why people turn to terrorism and why they hate America so much (and it ain't because they "hate our freedoms" or any nonsense like that). That would be a serious first step in the right direction.
    i don't know what we can do to take that step, terrorist attacks that I can recall started in teh 70's.... and now radical Muslims openly declare that their intention is the destruction of the the western world ... how do you convince people that think becoming human bombs and walking into a store to kill people (and themselves) is a rightous thing to do??


    The only thing I do know, is when the US is attacked on our soil, I want a response that is so severe that it will cause anyone thinking of doing it again to have 2nd and 3rd thoughts.

    Again Iím not for innocent civilians being killed, but until someone can come up with a more effective way, then using drones, Iím not going to be against them. They do kill terrorists, we put no American troop lives in danger, and from all the non biased information I can find they have a better percentage of terrorist deaths to civilian deaths of any other means we have available to us at this time.
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