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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection


    Just wondered .... have you ever bothered to look up how many innocent woman and children are murdered by terrorist attacks ?? Didn't think so .. those nice people don't warrant your time ..

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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Just wondered .... have you ever bothered to look up how many innocent woman and children are murdered by terrorist attacks ?? Didn't think so .. those nice people don't warrant your time ..
    Yet we're supposedly better than terrorists. But if any other nation did to us what we're doing to others, we would certainly call them a terrorist state.

    You don't get it both ways. Either we stand for freedom and liberty and are a beacon to the world as to how free a people can be, or we stoop to their level.
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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Just wondered .... have you ever bothered to look up how many innocent woman and children are murdered by terrorist attacks ?? Didn't think so .. those nice people don't warrant your time ..
    This is a BS argument and has nothing to do with what I have said at all. You are going to saying that I do not care about the innocents killed by terrorist attacks while I am arguing the fact the fact that drone strikes kill innocents and have never denied that terrorists have killed innocents. The very definition of terrorism (what ever definition one may look up), when involving non-state actors, consistently points at the killing of innocents.
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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Try telling that to a family member of one of the victims.
    That rhetoric doesn't exactly apply to what i'm saying
    Yes, people have died because of terrorism..
    that doesn't mean we should have an irrational fear of terrorist..honestly, be more afraid of 2nd hand smoke
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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yet we're supposedly better than terrorists. But if any other nation did to us what we're doing to others, we would certainly call them a terrorist state.

    You don't get it both ways. Either we stand for freedom and liberty and are a beacon to the world as to how free a people can be, or we stoop to their level.
    So whats your plan ?? Pretend that there are no terrorist? Gee maybe we weren't even attacked on 9/11 ...... Or is your plan to apologize to them some more ... and "hope" that will just start loving us .... and not be bent on the destruction of the Western world ?

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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    So whats your plan ?? Pretend that there are no terrorist? Gee maybe we weren't even attacked on 9/11 ...... Or is your plan to apologize to them some more ... and "hope" that will just start loving us .... and not be bent on the destruction of the Western world ?
    There are plenty of realistic measures we can take. But only an idiot believes that in a free society we'd ever be 100% safe. A chance of death at the hands of a terrorist is but one, and a rather small one at that, probability of being killed. Free is not safe. Free has never been safe. Free will never be safe. It's time that some of y'all understand that. I will take the probability of terrorist attack over the CERTAINTY of government force.

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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There are plenty of realistic measures we can take. But only an idiot believes that in a free society we'd ever be 100% safe. A chance of death at the hands of a terrorist is but one, and a rather small one at that, probability of being killed. Free is not safe. Free has never been safe. Free will never be safe. It's time that some of y'all understand that. I will take the probability of terrorist attack over the CERTAINTY of government force.

    "Conservatives"! HA. You've forgotten what that once meant.
    Realistic measures? What are they .. I would really be interested in what they are ?

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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    This is a BS argument and has nothing to do with what I have said at all. You are going to saying that I do not care about the innocents killed by terrorist attacks while I am arguing the fact the fact that drone strikes kill innocents and have never denied that terrorists have killed innocents. The very definition of terrorism (what ever definition one may look up), when involving non-state actors, consistently points at the killing of innocents.
    So again .. and honestly .. I'm really interested in what we should do .. how to we fight terrorist ...

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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Realistic measures? What are they .. I would really be interested in what they are ?
    There were certainly efficiencies within interbureaucratic agencies so that the CIA talks to the FBI, blah blah blah. Certainly there were measures to take with air travel; but to the degrees to which it has gone...overboard.

    In the end, I don't want to be 100% safe. 100% is anything but.
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    Re: Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There were certainly efficiencies within interbureaucratic agencies so that the CIA talks to the FBI, blah blah blah. Certainly there were measures to take with air travel; but to the degrees to which it has gone...overboard.

    In the end, I don't want to be 100% safe. 100% is anything but.
    Nice dodge .. . so what you are saying .. is that you are just bitching about something .. that you have no alternate ideas on, you can't come up with a way to do it better .. . you just know (in your mind anyway) that there is a better way of doing it..... Remember the thread is on Drone attacks killing innocent people ... not what we have done to make things safer in the USA
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