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    Re: Amendment 64 Passes: Colorado Legalizes Marijuana For Recreational Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Look at what the end of prohibition did to responsible citizens like Al Capone.
    Responsible citizens like Al Capone? What?

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    Re: Amendment 64 Passes: Colorado Legalizes Marijuana For Recreational Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    You're mistakenly assigning a commendable sense of altruism to the members of the minority community that make their income from selling pot. Taking away their only source of income will not be good for them, irrespective of anyone else's sense of benefit to the community. They don't live with their parents, they don't even have parents, they live on the street and make money by selling illegal pot. Look at what the end of prohibition did to responsible citizens like Al Capone.
    And I'm fine with that. I'm also fine with all the prison guards and DEA agents who will ultimately lose their jobs. It's still a positive on society as a whole, including the members of the minority community.

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    Re: Amendment 64 Passes: Colorado Legalizes Marijuana For Recreational Use

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Responsible citizens like Al Capone? What?
    Yeah, I decided to just let that part go...

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    Re: Amendment 64 Passes: Colorado Legalizes Marijuana For Recreational Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    You're mistakenly assigning a commendable sense of altruism to the members of the minority community that make their income from selling pot. Taking away their only source of income will not be good for them, irrespective of anyone else's sense of benefit to the community. They don't live with their parents, they don't even have parents, they live on the street and make money by selling illegal pot.
    Oh boo hoo, we're taking money away from drug dealers. Jesus Christ, is that seriously what you're taking from this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Look at what the end of prohibition did to responsible citizens like Al Capone.
    I'm sorry, no one is that stupid. If you're just here to troll and not debate, go somewhere else. I hear TrollPolitics.com is looking for members.
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    Re: Amendment 64 Passes: Colorado Legalizes Marijuana For Recreational Use

    What makes anyone think this will put the criminal dealers out of business? Even if some people go to all the trouble, cost and risk of setting up legal business, they're not going to cover anything like the width or depth of the market in the foreseeable future. If anything the gangs will have an easier time of it since I suspect this measure will be matched with a reduction in policing resources focused on it and also what little resource there might be in drug treatment and prevention.

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    Re: Amendment 64 Passes: Colorado Legalizes Marijuana For Recreational Use

    All that is needed now is for cocaine to be legalized and the Supreme Court judges, Wall Street bankers, corporate Cleo's etc can come out of the closet

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    Re: Amendment 64 Passes: Colorado Legalizes Marijuana For Recreational Use

    Very good news indeed!

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    Re: Amendment 64 Passes: Colorado Legalizes Marijuana For Recreational Use

    Apparently Peyton Manning bought 21 Papa John's franchises. Smart man....


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    Re: Amendment 64 Passes: Colorado Legalizes Marijuana For Recreational Use

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    What makes anyone think this will put the criminal dealers out of business? Even if some people go to all the trouble, cost and risk of setting up legal business, they're not going to cover anything like the width or depth of the market in the foreseeable future. If anything the gangs will have an easier time of it since I suspect this measure will be matched with a reduction in policing resources focused on it and also what little resource there might be in drug treatment and prevention.
    Treatment for weed addiction/abuse? The (ab)use of the recreational drug alcohol far exceeds that of weed and costs plenty more, the basis for this "decriminalization" action is to better use state resources for real crime, not to lock up Jane and Johnny because they chose an "alternative" recreational drug. Better to legalize, control and tax weed that to try to make it go away, just as it is with alcohol. Real drug education and examples of ruined lives due to abuse (not simple use) of all recreational drugs is sane, locking people up for simply chosing drug A over drug B is insane.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Amendment 64 Passes: Colorado Legalizes Marijuana For Recreational Use

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Better to legalize, control and tax weed that to try to make it go away, just as it is with alcohol.
    I don't necessarily disagree in principal but my question stands; What makes people think this legislation will make the criminal networks currently supplying drugs disappear?

    I predict one or two small ventures will establish the taxed, regulated and controlled legal businesses in the state but the vast majority of users either won't want (because it's inconvenient, expensive, poor choice, don't trust the government) or be able to (because it's too far away, they're under 21) to buy there. The criminal networks, with all the negatives that come with them, will still exist. They could even benefit, from greater public acceptance and reduced police resources aimed in their direction.

    I don't pretend to have the answer. I just don't think this should be seen as some kind of end game magically solving all the problems. The idea that you can shift the laws around cannabis to be like those for alcohol or tobacco and the social structures around them will suddenly shift too is either naive or dishonest in the extreme.

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