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FEMA Taps Private Vendors to Meet Sandy Victim's Needs

ChrisL said:
I don't why they can't get their act together. Everyone knew the storm was coming and everyone knew it was going to be pretty bad. I'm not just talking about FEMA either.
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The Salvation Army, FEMA, the Red Cross and the utility workers all had assets repositioned before the the storm hit.
 
sharon said:
The Salvation Army, FEMA, the Red Cross and the utility workers all had assets repositioned before the the storm hit.
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And according to the article, they ran out. There is no excuse for their unpreparedness. I mean, that is their job . . . to be prepared to help people in need. I'm also talking about the utility companies, etc. When they know there is going to be a big storm, there is just no reason why they should be unprepared.
 
sharon said:
The blame game is for pinheads.. My brothers sent more than 50,000 in emergency supplies to Katrina victims before FEMA arrived.
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good for your brother (honestly, he sounds like a great guy), but I am still unsure how that speaks against what I wrote
 
apdst said:
Ok, feel free to post information that is more accurate.

I won't hold my breath.
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There is no test of a Presidents performance better than the American people..

A number of new polls have shown that the American public has positive views of President Obama's response to the damage along the eastern seaboard caused by Hurricane Sandy.

A UPI poll released Saturday showed 77 percent of Americans had a positive take on Obama's response to the storm and an additional 65 percent thought "the destructive storm and its aftermath gave the president a chance to connect better with voters," the news service wrote. An ABC News/Washington Post national tracking poll released on Wednesday of last week also found 78 percent of likely voters had a positive view of the president's efforts. A pair of swing state polls released Saturday from NBC/Marist showed the same thing -- 70 percent of likely voters in Florida and 73 percent of likely voters in Ohio approved of the response.
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Polls Show Positive View Of Obama's Response To Hurricane Sandy Destruction | TPM LiveWire
 
iguanaman said:
A poll that shows that Obama's response to Sandy is going to get him re-elected. What more do you need?
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Yeah! Right!

"It's chaos; it's pandemonium out here," said Chris Damon, who had been waiting for 3 1/2 hours at the site and had circled the block five times. "It seems like nobody has any answers."

Added Damon: "I feel like a victim of Hurricane Katrina. I never thought it could happen here in New York, but it's happened."

My Way News - Lights in lower Manhattan, misery in outer regions
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Residents arm selves with bats and machetes to protect homes from Sandy looters - NYPOST.com

Queens residents arm themselves in the post-storm blackout from looters - NY Daily News
 
roughdraft274 said:
Doesn't matter how good the response is, right wingers are going to flail and whine about it anyways.
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Funny...that seems to be the liberal response. Think of Katrina and what do you think of? New Orleans...a city completely failed by its state and local government. You think of a 'failed' FEMA response that didnt get on the ground for 3, and yet ignore FEMA 'successes' during other administrations where FEMA didnt get on the ground in over 30 days. You ignore the fact that Katrina obliterated entire cities and communities in Mississippi and FEMA was on the scene from day one and instead focus on NOLA.

Hurricane Katrina's winds and storm surge reached the Mississippi coastline on the afternoon of August 28, 2005,[1][2] beginning a two-day path of destruction through central Mississippi; by 10 a.m. CDT on August 29, 2005, the eye of Katrina began travelling up the entire state, only slowing from hurricane-force winds at Meridian near 7 p.m. and entering Tennessee as a tropical storm.[3] Many coastal towns of Mississippi (and Louisiana) had already been obliterated, in a single night.[4] Hurricane-force winds reached coastal Mississippi by 2 a.m.[1] and lasted over 17 hours, spawning 11 tornadoes (51 in other states[2]) and a 28-foot (9 m) storm surge[2] flooding 6–12 miles (10–19 km) inland. Many, unable to evacuate,[5] survived by climbing to attics or rooftops, or swimming to higher buildings and trees. The worst property damage from Katrina occurred in coastal Mississippi, where all towns flooded over 90% in hours, and waves destroyed many historic buildings, with others gutted to the 3rd story. Afterward, over 235 people died in Mississippi, and all counties in Mississippi were declared disaster areas, 49 for full federal assistance


FEMA was on the scene immediately with the task of saving the lives of people across 4 states. But...George Bush dont like black people. Hell...you still see zombies on this site claiming FEMA under Bush was a disaster. So...I'm sorry...what were you saying about mindless political responses and the government response never being enough?

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VanceMack said:
FEMA was on the scene immediately with the task of saving the lives of people across 4 states. But...George Bush dont like black people.
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I never said anything even remotely close to this. Step back to reality and maybe we can chat about it buddy.
 
roughdraft274 said:
I never said anything even remotely close to this. Step back to reality and maybe we can chat about it buddy.
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That is PRECISELY what you said...just change the word right and left. Oh...I know...it doesnt fit your paradigm. It is no less true. Your comment IN TOTAL..."Doesn't matter how good the response is, left wingers are going to flail and whine about it anyways."

Spot on.
 
VanceMack said:
That is PRECISELY what you said...just change the word right and left. Oh...I know...it doesnt fit your paradigm. It is no less true. Your comment IN TOTAL..."Doesn't matter how good the response is, left wingers are going to flail and whine about it anyways."

Spot on.
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I said that Bush hates black people? How are we supposed to debate when you don't even know what the **** is being said?
 
roughdraft274 said:
I said that Bush hates black people? How are we supposed to debate when you don't even know what the **** is being said?
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Oh... I see. You must have missed the par where that was the mantra from the left re bush and Katrina (which was the point-it's always about politics never the actual response). I'm glad to know you applaud Bush and FEMAs efforts post Katrina. Most liberals aren't as smart as you.
 
roughdraft274 said:
I never said anything even remotely close to this. Step back to reality and maybe we can chat about it buddy.
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I recall the Libbos flailing nine ways from sunday over Katrina. The Response to Sandy has been worse.

In all fairness, you can't expect a clockwork response with the obstacles that these storms present and the natural inefficiency of the government will constinually deliver the same result. However, the hypocrisy of the Libbos needs to be highlighted.
 
roughdraft274 said:
I said that Bush hates black people? How are we supposed to debate when you don't even know what the **** is being said?
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Tell us what you were saying in the wake of Katrina? Or, were you just glad that Death Valley wasn't damaged? :rofl
 
apdst said:
I recall the Libbos flailing nine ways from sunday over Katrina. The Response to Sandy has been worse.

In all fairness, you can't expect a clockwork response with the obstacles that these storms present and the natural inefficiency of the government will constinually deliver the same result. However, the hypocrisy of the Libbos needs to be highlighted.
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What do you have to back that up?
 
Wiseone said:
What do you have to back that up?
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Tons of evidence has been posted. It's not my fault you choose to ignore it and deny it to defend The One.
 
LaMidRighter said:
I don't think the death toll is going to be as bad, but the response to the hurricane is at least as bad as Katrina. I don't remember anyone dumpster diving for food, then again there were warehouses full of supplies in NOLA that weren't moving because Blanco didn't want to cause a political issue by going around red tape. I have no faith in bureacrats in emergencies as they seem to have no comprehension of how quickly emergencies need to be dealt with.
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they're generally so out of touch with the plight of the average American, i'm sure they think a one-week response time to a major disaster is just fine, or better when like in Katrina they send in the thugs to disarm everyone, then pull out LOL :damn and come back with aid days later. Could not make it up.
 
apdst said:
Tons of evidence has been posted. It's not my fault you choose to ignore it and deny it to defend The One.
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Well lets look at a few facts, in Katrina looting took place for days and weeks after the storm, not to mention the thousands of people crammed into a football stadium, remember that? Sounds worse than having to buy some water.

You keep telling me I'm here to defend Obama, I'm just looking at the facts.
 
Wiseone said:
The OP is sourced by Brietbart, I'm not going to read it, I know its a junk unreliable source so there's no reason to debate against it. As far as I'm concerned your position is entirely unsourced
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Has anyone else noticed that republicans don't think much of America. Seems that the government is corrupt, evil, incompetent, useless, creating a nation of welfare bums, killing opportunity, taxing everyone to death, spendthrift and generally tyrannical. Of course they only think that in "democrat" season, but still. They scream about how if they don't win, america will cease to exist etc etc.

Seems they have absolutely no confidence in the strength of the average american. They have no confidence in a government that has been the beacon of liberty and freedom to the world, a government that has created the environment and opportunity for America to become the greatest, strongest nation on earth. they view the government apparently that is so fragile that it can collapse within one presidential term, a government that should not have anything to do with education, the environment, wall street regulation, unions, healthcare, social programs etc. A government that should not be investing in the nations infrastructure because it can't afford it. A government that is apparently on the verge of being foreclosed on. A government that isn't even good at expediting wars (as long as a democrat is leading it), which also seems to the sole reason most righties think the government should exist.

When did republicans stop being proud of America?

You righties have a terrible, pessimistic view of one of the most important pillars of American greatness. You constantly put it down, criticize it, wrap yourselves up in the flag and constitution (as long as its convenient). YOu even hate science but expect the fruits of its application.

When and why did you guys start hating America so much?
 
Jonsa said:
Has anyone else noticed that republicans don't think much of America. Seems that the government is corrupt, evil, incompetent, useless, creating a nation of welfare bums, killing opportunity, taxing everyone to death, spendthrift and generally tyrannical. Of course they only think that in "democrat" season, but still. They scream about how if they don't win, america will cease to exist etc etc.

Seems they have absolutely no confidence in the strength of the average american. They have no confidence in a government that has been the beacon of liberty and freedom to the world, a government that has created the environment and opportunity for America to become the greatest, strongest nation on earth. they view the government apparently that is so fragile that it can collapse within one presidential term, a government that should not have anything to do with education, the environment, wall street regulation, unions, healthcare, social programs etc. A government that should not be investing in the nations infrastructure because it can't afford it. A government that is apparently on the verge of being foreclosed on. A government that isn't even good at expediting wars (as long as a democrat is leading it), which also seems to the sole reason most righties think the government should exist.

When did republicans stop being proud of America?

You righties have a terrible, pessimistic view of one of the most important pillars of American greatness. You constantly put it down, criticize it, wrap yourselves up in the flag and constitution (as long as its convenient), hate science but expect the fruits of its application.

When and why did you guys start hating America so much?
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those are some good questions but you're going to be flamed hard for asking them.
 
roflpublican said:
those are some good questions but you're going to be flamed hard for asking them.
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big boy, I can take it.
I am more than familiar with the notion that most republicans don't think their **** stinks.
apparently whenever it starts to reek offensively, they simply erase the offending pile from their collective memory - like Bush/Cheney.
 
Jonsa said:
Has anyone else noticed that republicans don't think much of America. Seems that the government is corrupt, evil, incompetent, useless, creating a nation of welfare bums, killing opportunity, taxing everyone to death, spendthrift and generally tyrannical. Of course they only think that in "democrat" season, but still. They scream about how if they don't win, america will cease to exist etc etc.

Seems they have absolutely no confidence in the strength of the average american. They have no confidence in a government that has been the beacon of liberty and freedom to the world, a government that has created the environment and opportunity for America to become the greatest, strongest nation on earth. they view the government apparently that is so fragile that it can collapse within one presidential term, a government that should not have anything to do with education, the environment, wall street regulation, unions, healthcare, social programs etc. A government that should not be investing in the nations infrastructure because it can't afford it. A government that is apparently on the verge of being foreclosed on. A government that isn't even good at expediting wars (as long as a democrat is leading it), which also seems to the sole reason most righties think the government should exist.

When did republicans stop being proud of America?

You righties have a terrible, pessimistic view of one of the most important pillars of American greatness. You constantly put it down, criticize it, wrap yourselves up in the flag and constitution (as long as its convenient). YOu even hate science but expect the fruits of its application.

When and why did you guys start hating America so much?
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In the words of Samuel L Jackson...allow me to retort...

I am a conservative. I believe enough in my personal values and principles that I left the GOP in 2003. 'Proud' of America? Ive never stopped being proud of my country. Ive never stopped being proud of the promise it offers, the hope and opportunity it provides. Hell, I'm proud of the 20-30 million immigrants, illegal and otherwise, that leave their country and risk life to have the opportunities available only here. Im proud of those that dig down deep, work two and three jobs and provide for a better future for their families. Im proud of the entrepreneurs, the small businessmen, the single mom working her ass off and attending night school to better herself. Im proud of those that live within their means, save a bit, take care of their families, and work hard to provide for them. Im proud of a whole lot of people.

Proud of the federal government? Are you serious? Proud of two major political parties that sit their best and brightest at a table and cant come up with so much as a handful of deficit cuts over 10 year? Proud of two major parties and their zombielike supporters that care more for party than country? Proud of 16 trillion in debt and a mindset that finds it acceptable to dump the cost of todays irresponsibility on future generations? Proud of 47% of this country that pay no income tax and contribute nothing to the success of this country? Proud of the ever increasing lines of crippled and dependent pets begging for the government to toss them a few more handfuls of crumbs? Proud of states that cant manage their own budgets? Proud of people that overobligated themselves in debt and want someone else to blame it on and bail them out? Proud of people that refuse to work, meanwhile those immigrants we mentioned are driving Americans out of jobs markets? Proud of much of what passes for 'citizens' these days? Proud of the crippled and dependent pets that pollute our society-not those that CANT succeed but those that wont...those that reek of failure, those that didnt prepare for a future and now blame everyone else or their 'disability' for their own miserable existence? Proud of a government that panders to people for votes and doesnt have the character and will to expect people to stand on their own two feet and fight? Proud of ****heads in skinny jeans that protest evil Wall Street then vote for politicians that have their pockets stuffed with banker and broker cash? Proud of people that claim they cant afford health care but have no problem affording their cable bills, cellphone bills, internet bills, Starbucks, cigarettes, etc? Proud of those people?

No. **** no.

Doesnt mean I dont think will survive. Eventually.
 
I don't see anything surprising or wrong with FEMA getting supplies from private companies. If FEMA were nothing more than a stockpile of goods, it'd be useless.
 
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