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    Re: FEMA Taps Private Vendors to Meet Sandy Victim's Needs

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    Re: FEMA Taps Private Vendors to Meet Sandy Victim's Needs

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    good for you.




    Yes I'm serious about hte federal government. Those dreaded bureaucrats that work day in and day out. those soldiers who defend the country. The security people who keep the citizens relatively safe. The diplomats that work to further democracy and represent the nation to the world. The secret service that safeguards the president et.al. The guys/girls that inspect america's food and water, the clerks who ensure that little old ladies get their pensions checks and the destitute get fed. ALL THOSE are the federal government.

    You want to be disgusted with politicians? Who isn't with the ridiculous parody of the democratic process that washington has become. But to condemn the federal government for the sins of partisan politics is misdirecting the disgust.


    A wise man once said to me (paraphrase it was a while ago), "lots of people complain about paying taxes, but every year when I write out my 6 figure check, I am thankful that this country enables me to make enough that I can send the damn check to washington."

    Now, perhaps you have failed to notice, but nearly every president has presided over the making of new debt that burdens future generations. Not all of that debt is irresponsibly generated. Be thankful that America can owe $16T and the world STILL DOESN"T HAVE A PROBLEM LENDING IT MORE MONEY. Consider exactly what that means wrt Americas economic prowess and the confidence the world has about its future.




    You're kidding right? Do you know how many of that 47% are simply working stiffs? Do you realize they are not to blame for the tax structure as it stands? Do you realize that there are an enormous number of working poor and underemployed? Do you realize that of the 47% a fair chunk of them are either in school or retired? This constant refrain from the right demonstrates a profound ignorance of the lives that of huge swaths of their fellow citizens live. Its a bumpersticker meme of malicious mendaciousness. You should arm yourself with facts before determining if you are proud.



    I take it you'd rather put those lines of crippled pets down. Have you examined who makes up those "pets"? Even the terminology you use is hateful, dismissive and destructive. Interesting that you condemn those that "overobligated" themselves but for some reason feel comfortable that the financial predators who facilitated that "overobligations" are people you are proud of.




    Again the "crippled and dependent pets". Such hatred such distain. There are those that you discribe in every society, always have and always will, but it seems as though you colour your world with single broad brushstrokes, generating disproportionate condemnation of so many more people than your described group actually consists of. Wow you are full of vitriol and hatred for those you have absolutely no understanding of. YOu have essentially erased your compassion and empathy because of a small odious and unrepresentative sample of your fellow citizens.



    You have stated you are not proud of more than half of your fellow citizens. You are not proud of your government. You are not proud of the honest working people who serve their country and their fellow citizens. condemn the many for the sins of the few.

    Given all this obvious dismissive disgust you have for the majority of your fellow citizens, one has to wonder what your concept of your country is? What is it if not the sum of its citizens?




    Given your obvious brutally negative perspective, its a wonder.
    Shouldnt be a wonder. Im not one of the large group of people waiting for others to take care of me. That group...yeah...they are going to struggle.

    Like I said...your premise is wrong. Its not the country that people like me arent proud of. Its so many in it. Give me more immigrants any day of the week...especially if we can send a like number of crippled and dependent pets back their country in trade.

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    Re: FEMA Taps Private Vendors to Meet Sandy Victim's Needs

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Politicians all praising each other, while over a million people are literally still freezing over a week later. This is Democrats' and Obama's new view of what is good government and bi-partisanship. Mutually agreeing to praise each other while ordinary people freeze and die.

    One thing FEMA does do is it keeps a stockpile of coffins.
    REpublicans screaming about big government, screaming about not enough government. Seems you guys can complain out of both ends simultaneously.
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    Shouldnt be a wonder. Im not one of the large group of people waiting for others to take care of me. That group...yeah...they are going to struggle.

    Like I said...your premise is wrong. Its not the country that people like me arent proud of. Its so many in it. Give me more immigrants any day of the week...especially if we can send a like number of crippled and dependent pets back their country in trade.
    The sum of a country is its citizens, nothing more, nothing less. It is the citizens that shape its culture, its goals, its achievements, is failures. Seems you only want the "good" ones.

    Which leads to your disgusting approval population transfer. Perhaps you can load them into cattle cars and ship them off to the "east". That should give you enough room to practice your goosestep.
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    Re: FEMA Taps Private Vendors to Meet Sandy Victim's Needs

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    The sum of a country is its citizens, nothing more, nothing less. It is the citizens that shape its culture, its goals, its achievements, is failures. Seems you only want the "good" ones.

    Which leads to your disgusting approval population transfer. Perhaps you can load them into cattle cars and ship them off to the "east". That should give you enough room to practice your goosestep.
    This countries citizenry is being dragged down by a whole lot of dead weight. I dont have disdain for those that CANT provide for themselves...but those that REFUSE to? Those that fail miserably in their day to day existence and then whine and cry about how unfair life is? Hell yes. I would absolutely LOVE to trade bodies...not so much east and west but definitely to the south. There are a whole lot of people that believe in socialist utopias...sounds like the would fit right in at Cubans and mejico. Funny how so many worthless ****s in this country whine about how hard it is and how unfair it is, meanwhile people risk their lives to come here and manage to find work, survive, and even thrive. That spirit...hell yes Im proud of them. The whiny crippled dependent pets...not so much. But hey...they DO make for a great voting blok.

    Yeah...that deadweight...Im not shocked you are proud of it.

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    Re: FEMA Taps Private Vendors to Meet Sandy Victim's Needs

    Democrats claiming the military personnel were part of Romney's 47% are just outright lying.

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    Re: FEMA Taps Private Vendors to Meet Sandy Victim's Needs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    This countries citizenry is being dragged down by a whole lot of dead weight. I dont have disdain for those that CANT provide for themselves...but those that REFUSE to? Those that fail miserably in their day to day existence and then whine and cry about how unfair life is? Hell yes. I would absolutely LOVE to trade bodies...not so much east and west but definitely to the south. There are a whole lot of people that believe in socialist utopias...sounds like the would fit right in at Cubans and mejico. Funny how so many worthless ****s in this country whine about how hard it is and how unfair it is, meanwhile people risk their lives to come here and manage to find work, survive, and even thrive. That spirit...hell yes Im proud of them. The whiny crippled dependent pets...not so much. But hey...they DO make for a great voting blok.

    Yeah...that deadweight...Im not shocked you are proud of it.
    I hear this all the time about "deadweight". Exactly how heavy is this deadweight. You already alluded to the fallacious 47%. How many refuse to work? How many abuse the social safety net? Can you even remotely quanitify it?

    You constant use of the term "pets" speaks volumes.
    I never said I was proud of it. I said that I can't reconcile the constant expressions of complaint, hatred, mendacity, outrageous criticism, of America, its government and its people by righties, with their constant seemingly hypocritical jingoism.

    Seems they love the flag, people who think like them and money, not necessarily in that order and that is what they think America truly represents.

    With every post, you just re-inforce my premise.
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    Re: FEMA Taps Private Vendors to Meet Sandy Victim's Needs

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Democrats claiming the military personnel were part of Romney's 47% are just outright lying.

    who said they were?

    Romney was pretty clear that the 47% didn't pay taxes. Well, the military on deployment don't pay taxes. Is that a lie?
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    Re: FEMA Taps Private Vendors to Meet Sandy Victim's Needs

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    I hear this all the time about "deadweight". Exactly how heavy is this deadweight. You already alluded to the fallacious 47%. How many refuse to work? How many abuse the social safety net? Can you even remotely quanitify it?

    You constant use of the term "pets" speaks volumes.
    I never said I was proud of it. I said that I can't reconcile the constant expressions of complaint, hatred, mendacity, outrageous criticism, of America, its government and its people by righties, with their constant seemingly hypocritical jingoism.

    Seems they love the flag, people who think like them and money, not necessarily in that order and that is what they think America truly represents.

    With every post, you just re-inforce my premise.
    Good...Im not surprised you hear it all the time, so you should be used to it. I promise...America DOES NOT and never will represent "wipe my ass and take care of me....poor me...Im helpless." JFK would puke on what the democrat party and many of its members have become. That you think THAT is what made the country great explains why there are so many crippled and dependent pets and why so many of the 'new jobs' that have been created recently have gone to immigrants.

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    Re: FEMA Taps Private Vendors to Meet Sandy Victim's Needs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    When Clintons FEMA took 5 weeks to respond that was deemed acceptable. When Bush's FEMA responded same day across 4 states and only 3 days later in NOLA, that was deemed a disaster.
    Disaster response isn't only calculated by response time. Have fun in this thread, because I'm not wasting any more time in it. It's a thread started purely based on political reasons to try to score points.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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