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UPDATE: New Jersey utility denies turning away nonunion electric crew volunteers from

Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

I think Romney will stay bigoted.
ahhh! then we both agree on something :2wave:

as for pre 2008, Obama wasnt like to crazy bigots that opened their mouths. Obama kept it to himself.
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

Was it hard to vote for Obama in 2008 when he was a bigot?

Also, he never ran on the anti-gay marriage platform.
It's good to see people change for the right things.
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

Is Obama a compulsive gambler??? Have a call-girl on the side????

Libya... Obama jumps on the plane to Las Vegas
Hurricane Sandy... Obama doesn't even visit NYC... instead jumps on the plane to Las Vegas.

Why is Obama always going to Las Vegas!?
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

Also, he never ran on the anti-gay marriage platform.
It's good to see people change for the right things.

We call that a phoney fraud where I come from. Obama kept quiet on same-sex marriage in 2008 to get as many votes as possible. He evolved when he realized the gays were not happy with him and they might not vote for him.

Did you know 70% of Blacks in California voted against Same-sex marriage?
 
Re: UPDATE: New Jersey utility denies turning away nonunion electric crew volunteers

I think lying about this was wrong whether you like unions or not.

And lying about Romney and Tea Party is also wrong. Your team can work on that.
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

We call that a phoney fraud where I come from.
So changing your mind or being educated on a topic is considered "fraud"?
Maybe this is why conservatives are so afraid of change. It's simply looked down upon.



Did you know 70% of Blacks in California voted against Same-sex marriage?
Yep! i know. Civil rights should not be in the hands of the voting people. it's that simple.

It will be overturned soon by the SC
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

So changing your mind or being educated on a topic is considered "fraud"?
Maybe this is why conservatives are so afraid of change. It's simply looked down upon.




Yep! i know. Civil rights should not be in the hands of the voting people. it's that simple.

It will be overturned soon by the SC

Obama stated he was FOR same-sex marriage in 1996. Looks like he devolved between 1996 and 2008 and then suddenly evolved back to his former position right before the convention this year. You poor naive creatures.
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

Is Obama a compulsive gambler??? Have a call-girl on the side????

Libya... Obama jumps on the plane to Las Vegas
Hurricane Sandy... Obama doesn't even visit NYC... instead jumps on the plane to Las Vegas.

Why is Obama always going to Las Vegas!?

So who has not jumped on a place to Vegas?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

Obama stated he was FOR same-sex marriage in 1996. Looks like he devolved between 1996 and 2008 and then suddenly evolved back to his former position right before the convention this year. You poor naive creatures.

Do you have a link for this? I would like to read it.
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

I'm not defending the actions of these towns, but don't you think that breaking the Union's back would please the Daily Caller?

I don't care if it would please some outside body, that's immaterial.
People need power now.

The problem is, there are regulations and laws. For better or worse, a natural disaster doesn't change them. Christie ought to do whatever waivers he needs to do, but until he does there's only so much that can happen.

And that's retarded.
People need power now, not later.

There is a time and place to ignore non essential laws and this is one of them.
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

People in NJ are on their knees being unemployed for YEARS...many have lost their homes...Gov Crispy Chreme despite all his claims of Grandeur has done NOTHING New Jersey is not only not any better off but it may be even worse off then when he took over and screwed the working class.

So all that is good enough reason to deny people electricity sooner?
Your argument is basically, politics over people.
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

New Jersey UNION members have a right to work in NJ before any out of staters....

I absolutely agree. In fact, this would be a really good time for them to negotiate better pay and benefits. may as well take care of that stuff while you have leverage, right? Besides, all those people without electricity - sitting there in the cold and dark - will only come to appreciate the unions more once they get service back.:roll:
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

The story is not true. Nobody was turned away.
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

All I can say is "wow". The idea is to help the people who need it the most. The victims of the hurricanes. All other rules, ideas, agendas and opinions should be laid aside until the victims are restored enough to be able to at least help themselves. We are supposed to care about people. Unions do serve some place in some parts of society. I am not necessarily all for them or all against them. But during this time of devastation, this is not the time to be concerned about the union workers rights. Not during a state of emergency. Once the dust settles, yes, I would agree that the unions could go back to business as usual. But right now, the victims should be top priority, above anything else.
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

That really isn't the point.
Many of you find it perfectly fine, that this situation were true.

Completely unreal.

Nope, many of us just think that the residents should get first dibs on any work. Then, if you need something or somebody extra, you bring in your volunteers.
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

And that's crazy, in this situation.

I don't think it's crazy at all. What's the problem with hiring the people who are most affected? It certainly wouldn't take longer to get them. What's the objection?
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

I don't think it's crazy at all. What's the problem with hiring the people who are most affected? It certainly wouldn't take longer to get them. What's the objection?

First, you'd have to find trained and experienced people now, that have a way to clean up and prep themselves for work everyday.
Second, you'd have to spend $$$ on temporary equipment and supplies, when you're already spending tons on other clean up costs.

At the end of the day, it's an inefficient and unsustainable to way to fix the damage.
All because it makes people "feel good" rather than fix the problems now.
 
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I have no doubt the utility company itself turned no one away. But I'm just as certain it happened:

UPDATE: A New Jersey power company denied Friday that it is turning away nonunion volunteer crews who want to travel great distances to help reconnect power supplies severed by Hurricane Sandy. But an Alabama utility is clarifying that it was the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers [IBEW] — not the company — that turned them away.

Read more: New Jersey town turns away Alabama volunteer utility workers because they're nonunion | The Daily Caller
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

First, you'd have to find trained and experienced people now, that have a way to clean up and prep themselves for work everyday. Second, you'd have to spend $$$ on temporary equipment and supplies, when you're already spending tons on other clean up costs.

What is the difference between finding trained and experienced people at home FIRST, and then if you need more looking elsewhere?

At the end of the day, it's an inefficient and unsustainable to way to fix the damage.
All because of some it makes people "feel good" rather than fix the problems now.

I don't agree. I think it is better and more helpful to the local economy to hire the locals first instead of going right away to outsource work to other people in other states. And it would not stop the problems from being fixed now. There are plenty of people who are experienced in disaster cleanups. This is not our FIRST storm here in the Northeast.
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

What is the difference between finding trained and experienced people at home FIRST, and then if you need more looking elsewhere?

Because there aren't likely a lot of people, with a home and experience in fixing power grid problems.


I don't agree. I think it is better and more helpful to the local economy to hire the locals first instead of going right away to outsource work to other people in other states. And it would not stop the problems from being fixed now. There are plenty of people who are experienced in disaster cleanups. This is not our FIRST storm here in the Northeast.

I think your reasoning is foolish and short sited.
Disaster clean up /= power line worker.
 
Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

I was just thinking, what exact "special skills" do people need to rebuild? We have plenty of carpenters. We also have floods for other reasons than hurricanes, such as at the end of every winter when we get heavy snow, rivers tend to swell and we get plenty of flooding going on. I think the only issue for New Jersey is getting their electricity back on, and it would not take any longer to get people who are union electricians from the area together to work on such a project. That is what the unions do. BIG jobs.
 
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