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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You're right, I don't.
    I do know that there are people available, who came on their own accord to assist and repair downed power lines.
    It seems that local utilities took advantage of these people and put them to work.

    Why do you think they did so, rather than hire a new batch of line workers?
    This is just one reason why the story is not complete. It doesn't say if they have enough help already or if they still need help. It only says that union turned them away (in Maggie's link). It doesn't say why though.

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I absolutely agree. In fact, this would be a really good time for them to negotiate better pay and benefits. may as well take care of that stuff while you have leverage, right? Besides, all those people without electricity - sitting there in the cold and dark - will only come to appreciate the unions more once they get service back.
    Its up to the company to PAY to get the electricity turned on..see utilities are PRIVATE COMPANIES that dont lose money ever...like the oil companies they dont sell anything PEOPLE MUST HAVE WHAT THEY SELL...NJ especially pays through the NOSE for electricity...the investors just have to take less and PAY for the disaster like everyone else does...after THEY PAY all New Jersey workers then of course use volunteers...but dont try and use volunteeers just not to PAY the workers...see the difference..>LOL ..I doubt you will

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Its up to the company to PAY to get the electricity turned on..see utilities are PRIVATE COMPANIES that dont lose money ever...like the oil companies they dont sell anything PEOPLE MUST HAVE WHAT THEY SELL...NJ especially pays through the NOSE for electricity...the investors just have to take less and PAY for the disaster like everyone else does...after THEY PAY all New Jersey workers then of course use volunteers...but dont try and use volunteeers just not to PAY the workers...see the difference..>LOL ..I doubt you will
    Ok....I'll do this slow so that you can keep up.....If businesses in NJ can't function because they don't have electricity then nobody is going to be working and if nobody is working then they aren't getting a paycheck from the businesses that aren't open so it's going to be pretty difficult for people to pay for their electricity that they aren't getting because they're waiting for the unions to sort out who is eligible to help and who isn't.

    Now, that being said, you do have a valid point in that all of this can be prevented by just not getting the electricity back up. That way everyone's rates will be nice and low and the Unions can kick out anyone they want because electricity will be a total non-issue.

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Some of those people ARE local union members, so yes I'm sure there are people who do care. People who are ALREADY qualified. The number of qualified people is besides the point. I just said to make sure that those who are qualified are given a job too.

    Are you saying there are no already qualified people in the local area who are out of work? People who don't have to be trained.
    I just can't believe this.....

    Seriously, Chris, if your house was on fire and slowly burning to the ground and the fire department needed more help would you want them to tell the 6 guys with a truck and hoses to back off until they checked with retirees and called around to see if anybody that got RIF'd is available?

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Ok....I'll do this slow so that you can keep up.....If businesses in NJ can't function because they don't have electricity then nobody is going to be working and if nobody is working then they aren't getting a paycheck from the businesses that aren't open so it's going to be pretty difficult for people to pay for their electricity that they aren't getting because they're waiting for the unions to sort out who is eligible to help and who isn't.


    Now, that being said, you do have a valid point in that all of this can be prevented by just not getting the electricity back up. That way everyone's rates will be nice and low and the Unions can kick out anyone they want because electricity will be a total non-issue.

    I would go slow but I dont really care if you understand me or not and this is the last ill say on this....when your a profit taking company...like electric utilities THAT NEVER LOSE MONEY...always make profit...its guaranteed profit...they dont have to spend millions upon millions in advertising their cost to do business is far lower than all other retailers...THEY MUST PAY THEIR WORKERS to get them up and running and once they are all being PAID then by all means use volunteers...but you do not use volunteers to screw workers out of work....thanks for playing thats all I have to say...

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    The good news for New Jersey crews who refused help from non-union volunteers is that, apparently, they aren't the most stupid people out there. It seems that some folks in Bridgeport, CT have managed to claim that title as they pelted utility workers who were repairing services in their community with eggs because the mayor claimed that they were working on wealthy neighborhoods first.

    Utility workers pelted with eggs after Bridgeport, Conn. mayor blasts provider | Fox News

    Congratulations Bridgeport! You have achieved "supreme epic stupidity" status.

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    The story is not true. Nobody was turned away.
    Er...uh, you may want to call Governor Christie and inform him of that...

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    The good news for New Jersey crews who refused help from non-union volunteers is that, apparently, they aren't the most stupid people out there. It seems that some folks in Bridgeport, CT have managed to claim that title as they pelted utility workers who were repairing services in their community with eggs because the mayor claimed that they were working on wealthy neighborhoods first.

    Utility workers pelted with eggs after Bridgeport, Conn. mayor blasts provider | Fox News

    Congratulations Bridgeport! You have achieved "supreme epic stupidity" status.
    Classless. Staggeringly stupid.

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The vitriolic anti-union hatred from the far right continues unabated.
    Unions are denying basic services to people who just weathered a catastrophic storm.
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