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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Why are you assuming that they NEED the outside help to get what needs to be done in a timely fashion. Like I said, there are PLENTY of locals who are capable who are unemployed. Even if they aren't union workers, the local residents who ARE electricians, etc., should be offered the opportunity FIRST before bringing in out-of-staters who will not contribute much to the local economy.



    You must be reading different news stories than the rest of us are. Because if you read the same news stories the rest of us have been reading and watching on tv then you would know that know that no state has enough qualified people and equipment to handle a disaster like that. There is nothing wrong with accepting outside help to help the local companies. Getting that power back up should be priority, not whining how unions are getting squeezed out.
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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    This is the operative language of the article:

    Another nonunion Decatur Utilities crew is idling in Roanoke, Va., waiting for instructions from Seaside Heights. The town asked them days ago for help, but later told the workers to stand down.
    Electric repair work for public utilities in New Jersey is dominated by the International Brotherhood Of Electrical Workers, a unit of the politically powerful AFL-CIO.

    Many parts of coastal New Jersey are projected to be without electric power for at least seven to 10 more days.


    Read more: New Jersey town turns away Alabama volunteer utility workers because they're nonunion | The Daily Caller
    Right, the article does NOT say that is the reason why they were turned away. If you read the sentence carefully, it does not say that.

    "The town asked them days ago for help, but later told the workers to stand down. Electric repair work for public utilities in New Jersey is dominated by the International Brotherhood Of Electrical Workers, a unit of the politically powerful AFL-CIO."

    It simply states that they asked for help, later told them to stand down, and then it states that electric repair work is dominated by the electrical workers union, but it does NOT state that is THE reason for the ONLY reason. Like I said, the article lacks details and seems completely one-sided.

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    'No Red Tape'? New Jersey Turns Away Non-union Relief Crews

    Yes, the community in those pictures has it covered. They don't need any help.

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    No one is claiming that there are not any qualified people or equipment in New Jersey.
    Oh okay. So if all the qualified union workers are working in the state, then why would they turn away FREE help if they really still need more people?

    I think there is more to this story than this particular article says. Wouldn't be the FIRST time. That's for sure.

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post

    Hasn't the time come to outlaw anyone being employed who doesn't have a union card like in some states?
    Well of course not, we should be outlawing labor unions just like the Soviet Union did.


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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by Willie Orwontee View Post
    Everyone got all worked up over a rumor that is completely false.

    Huntsville, Joe Wheeler utilities deny claims of union discrimination during Sandy response (update) | al.com

    I've been shuttling gasoline and personal goods to a host of friends in Manahakin and Toms River and Brick and have seen plenty of RTW state utility crews working.

    If Seaside Heights refused outside help it wasn't a "union thing" it was because they are their "own thing", they have held out JPL (Jersey Power and Light) crews also . . .
    What about THIS post that everyone seems to have ignored?

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Sorry, I don't have to time to address everyone who quoted me. I am trying to just sneak in here while I work when I have an extra minute or so.

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Oh okay. So if all the qualified union workers are working in the state, then why would they turn away FREE help if they really still need more people?

    I think there is more to this story than this particular article says. Wouldn't be the FIRST time. That's for sure.

    Weren't you or rocket88 just a few pages back talking about contracts, how there is this conspiracy to screw poor little unions by using out of state volunteers and how out of state volunteers are scabs?
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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Right, the article does NOT say that is the reason why they were turned away. If you read the sentence carefully, it does not say that.

    "The town asked them days ago for help, but later told the workers to stand down. Electric repair work for public utilities in New Jersey is dominated by the International Brotherhood Of Electrical Workers, a unit of the politically powerful AFL-CIO."

    It simply states that they asked for help, later told them to stand down, and then it states that electric repair work is dominated by the electrical workers union, but it does NOT state that is THE reason for the ONLY reason. Like I said, the article lacks details and seems completely one-sided.
    Okay, then why were they told to "stand down"?

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Weren't you or rocket88 just a few pages back talking about contracts, how there is this conspiracy to screw poor little unions by using out of state volunteers and how out of state volunteers are scabs?
    No, I said this could easily be a case of the state trying to get freebie work at the expense of the union employees and even nonunion employees who reside in the state. That wouldn't be so unusual.

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