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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    For real?
    These guys are offering to help assist the local people, for free.

    Good lord, no good deed goes unpunished I suppose.
    Have we determined for certain that it isn't just some insurance/liability issue?

    Or local licensing/regulation?

    Are the utilities in question publicly owned ot private? Do the volunteers work for private or public utilities.

    Their could be a lot of legal/bureaucratic explanations other than "evil unions".

    Or the locals may just be protecting their overtime.
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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

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    Yes, but it doesn't state that the work isn't already being taken care of. This article is clearly neglectful of details and is completely one-sided on the issue.



    It would be the power companies. They are the ones who sign the contracts with the states. The unions make deals with the companies, then the companies make deals with the states they service.
    Your posts are lies.

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Have we determined for certain that it isn't just some insurance/liability issue?

    Or local licensing/regulation?

    Are the utilities in question publicly owned ot private? Do the volunteers work for private or public utilities.

    Their could be a lot of legal/bureaucratic explanations other than "evil unions".

    Or the locals may just be protecting their overtime.
    People come first. This is just plain wrong.

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    The union lackies on this thread and the naive don't want to admit one very simple fact. The volunteers are nonunion and that is the only reason they are being turned back. This is sick.

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well I just perused the article again, and it does not give a reason as to why these volunteers were turned away. The OP article is very sketchy and without much detail.
    The general manager of Decatur Utilities, Ray Hardin told Fox Business they were presented documents from the International Brotherhood of Electric Workers at a staging area in Virginia. The documents stated they had to affiliate with a union to work, which the crews could not agree to.
    Decatur Utilities crews home after issues with union - WAFF-TV: News, Weather and Sports for Huntsville, AL


    Also, if this is the case, then your problem lies with the state. The unions cannot just do whatever they want and control the entire operation. If the state is okay with volunteers coming in, then that will be what happens.
    No, not the state. Utilities are typically cooperatives and are not run by the state. Jersey Light and Power is a subsidary of First energy who:

    FirstEnergy includes one of the nation's largest investor-owned electric systems and a diverse generating fleet with a total capacity of more than 20,000 megawatts.
    https://www.firstenergycorp.com/cont...orp/about.html

    Note the 'investor-owned'...this is not a state government issue...
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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post

    Your posts are lies.
    Oh, so now I'm stupid and a liar. Dude, you are priceless. Where are these "lies" anyway.

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Rhodes View Post

    Oh, so now I'm stupid and a liar. Dude, you are priceless. Where are these "lies" anyway.
    I said your posts are a lie. The report states they were turned away because they were nonunion. You're making stuff up.

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Everyone got all worked up over a rumor that is completely false.

    Huntsville, Joe Wheeler utilities deny claims of union discrimination during Sandy response (update) | al.com

    I've been shuttling gasoline and personal goods to a host of friends in Manahakin and Toms River and Brick and have seen plenty of RTW state utility crews working.

    If Seaside Heights refused outside help it wasn't a "union thing" it was because they are their "own thing", they have held out JPL (Jersey Power and Light) crews also . . .
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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Decatur Utilities crews home after issues with union - WAFF-TV: News, Weather and Sports for Huntsville, AL




    No, not the state. Utilities are typically cooperatives and are not run by the state. Jersey Light and Power is a subsidary of First energy who:


    https://www.firstenergycorp.com/cont...orp/about.html

    Note the 'investor-owned'...this is not a state government issue...
    You are not getting what I am saying. The unions do NOT directly deal with the state (unless they are a public sector union). Private sector unions make deals with the power companies that employ them. The power companies and the states come up with contracts between themselves. I am not saying the power companies are run by the state. I am saying that they have contracts with the state which are separate from their contracts with their union employees.

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    Re: Union Thuggary at it's Finest

    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Rhodes View Post
    People come first. This is just plain wrong.
    All I'm saying is don't be surprised if it turns out to be something OTHER than "evul unions" is the reason.

    It could just be communication issues. Radios and whatnot.

    Power work requires it. Personal generators are a MAJOR issue for power workers.

    Its not just grabbing a shovel and helping out.
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