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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    In general, do the people that support Obamacare, and even voice that it is 'not enough' or a 'good first step' want MORE government involvement or LESS?
    People support the ACA for a variety reasons. You are asking me to classify a variety of support into a single group.

    Some like it because it doesn't discriminate anymore.
    Some like it because it sets up free market insurance exchanges.
    Some like it because their kids can still be covered.
    Some like it because it pushes preventive care.
    Some like it because it removes life time limits.
    Some like it because it slows the theft of premiums by the uninsured

    I can't answer your question because the reasons why people like the ACA are very, very varied.

    But to say that the government can't reduce costs by getting involved ignores the capacity of the government to act as a single large buyer of drugs. While both Bush and Obama essentially failed to do that, state governments and foreign government do use their own weight to drive down drug prices. That saves money. No question about it.
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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Hell of a way to say, "Thank you!".
    It's what you highlight that defines the story.

    . . .
    In calling for less spending on military pay raises, the report basically endorses a plan proposed, but not yet executed, by the Defense Department. Under the Pentagon plan, pay raises beginning in 2015 would be capped at less than the average increase in private sector pay, a move that responds to a belief that military members are being paid more than civilians with comparable jobs and experience. This happened because Congress, over Pentagon objections, has regularly provided the military with raises that were slightly larger than the average private-sector raise to eliminate what had been perceived as a pay gap. The end result, says the report, is that the average service member is receiving $5,400 more in annual compensation than a comparable civilian.

    The Defense Department plan calls for a 0.5 percent raise in 2015, a 1 percent raise in 2016 and a 1.5 percent raise in 2017 to bring pay levels back in line, which the CAP report endorses.

    “To its credit, the Department of Defense has attempted to tackle this problem in its FY 2013 budget request, outlining a plan that would gradually bring military pay back in line with the Employment Cost Index without cutting any service member’s pay,” the report says. “Congress should demonstrate political courage and allow the Department of Defense to execute this long-term plan.”

    Similarly, the report endorses many of the Defense Department’s proposals for cutting health care costs by raising fees, mostly on retirees and their families. But the report goes a step further: “To truly restore the Tricare program to stable financial footing, the Defense Department should enact measures to reduce the overutilization of medical services and limit double coverage of working-age military retirees,” the report says.

    One idea would be to modify Tricare for Life benefits for Medicare-eligible retirees so that the program would not cover the first $500 of costs per year and would cover only 50 percent of the next $5,000.

    . . .
    Not so bad now, huh?

    You don't mind when the republicans talk of cutting back foodstamps on children, or getting rid of their Medcaid.
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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Liberal leaning Think Tank - lol

    Are there any think tanks out there that actually recommend ordinary people be looked after in the USA?

    Who funds "think tanks"?

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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The troops, who served and sacrificed for you and I, aren't the, "military industrial complex". They deserve to be given the bennies they were promised in return for their service.
    Here ya have it folks, someone who wants the troops to get everything they were promised in return for their service. . .

    . . .and votes GOP

    Oh, wait. . .

    Mitt Romney’s Bizarre Explanation For Why He Didn’t Mention Afghanistan At The GOP Convention

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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    People support the ACA for a variety reasons. You are asking me to classify a variety of support into a single group.
    Because with very limited exceptions, it is one single group.
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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Not so bad now, huh?
    Why do you hate people in the military so much?
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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Hell of a way to say, "Thank you!".
    I would like to know the financing source for The Center for American Progress. I never view these agencies as objective, but trying to promote their sponsor's agenda. This isn't the same group that ginned up the Iraq War, is it?

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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I would like to know the financing source for The Center for American Progress. I never view these agencies as objective, but trying to promote their sponsor's agenda. This isn't the same group that ginned up the Iraq War, is it?
    Progressive globalist Soros is a major contributor.
    Incrementally, and always under the guise of "fairness", "equality", and "social justice", the US Constitution has been deceitfully interpreted in ways that remove all limitations on central authority...and place them on the people.

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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    It's what you highlight that defines the story.



    Not so bad now, huh?

    You don't mind when the republicans talk of cutting back foodstamps on children, or getting rid of their Medcaid.
    i'm on the fence over this particular issue... but I have to take exception to the idea that Soldiers are paid more than civilians doing comparable jobs.


    there are no military jobs that are comparable to civilian jobs.

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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    It's what you highlight that defines the story.



    Not so bad now, huh?

    You don't mind when the republicans talk of cutting back foodstamps on children, or getting rid of their Medcaid.
    No, not so bad unless you are one of the people affected.

    I notice you try to steer your arguments to the Republicans trying to hurt children, does that mean you support ending food stamps and medicaid for adults? Or are you trying to create an emotional response to garner support for you view? If so, it is really disturbing that you hide behind children and want to use them for your own ends.

    If you believe that everyone should receive the same from the government, regardless of their contributions to society, then your view might hold water. However, it is a socialist view point that does not equate value output to value input. The value someone gets back from society should be directly proportional to what the value they have provided to society. Exceptions can and should be made for the disabled who are unable to give. Military veterans, especially war and career veterans have given more to society than any other class or group of people in our society. To say they only deserve what is given to welfare recipients should unthinkable and demonstrates a rather selfish mindset.

    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. If the needs of 20% or less of our population places a bankrupting burden upon the other 80%, then it is better for all to stop that support. The society must survive, the individual does not have to for the society as a whole to survive.
    Be sure to work hard and get lots of overtime. People on welfare want more steaks and free upgrades to smart phones with unlimited data packages.

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