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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    So you disparage spending cuts to veteran benefits but now you equate veteran benefits to welfare checks?
    Take away the military and what do you suppose a lot of these poor minorities are going to be doing to support themselves? They sure as hell won't be thanking you for their welfare check and pulling the lever for you. The military provides a critical platform for upward mobility for poor people. They train doctors, nurses, instill leadership skills, etc. In terms of economics, it makes a billion times more sense to have the military as it is than college loans and grant programs to help people, especially when there are so few jobs that will pay you enough not to be buried under your student loan debt for 15-25 years.

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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

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    So you agree to do the same to entitlements right?
    Only if we cap executive pay for large businesses so they can hire more employees so they can get jobs with viable pay so they won't need entitlements.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Take away the military and what do you suppose a lot of these poor minorities are going to be doing to support themselves? They sure as hell won't be thanking you for their welfare check and pulling the lever for you. The military provides a critical platform for upward mobility for poor people. They train doctors, nurses, instill leadership skills, etc. In terms of economics, it makes a billion times more sense to have the military as it is than college loans and grant programs to help people, especially when there are so few jobs that will pay you enough not to be buried under your student loan debt for 15-25 years.
    If we're going to have the military just be a jobs program then we can provide just as many jobs to doctors and nurses, even more, by instituting a national health service to provide universal health care.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    If we're going to have the military just be a jobs program then we can provide just as many jobs to doctors and nurses, even more, by instituting a national health service to provide universal health care.
    Your side created Obamacare. Make up your minds and let us know which argument you are going to go with.

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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Your side created Obamacare. Make up your minds and let us know which argument you are going to go with.
    My side didn't make Obamacare.

    My side supports a national health service to provide universal health care.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Cut all the spending on the F-35 and all these useless weapons first.

    Par for the course George Soros, douchebag.
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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Only if we cap executive pay for large businesses so they can hire more employees so they can get jobs with viable pay so they won't need entitlements.
    I don't remember you proposing any conditions on military cuts, I guess those are much easier to stomach.
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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Apdst, everything's got to be examined. Even veterans' benefits. In your heart your know that. The one thing I don't agree with? Pay raises. I don't think our soldiers get paid near enough.
    this is why I oppose massive defense cuts.it's always the soldiers to get hit first and the hardest.
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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Apdst, everything's got to be examined. Even veterans' benefits. In your heart your know that. The one thing I don't agree with? Pay raises. I don't think our soldiers get paid near enough.
    But see, thats the damn problem. I fine if EVERYTHING is on the table. But its not. I'd have no problem with pay freezes, bigger Tricare copays if it was part of an across the board cut. I have hard time swallowing that pill when we're increasing spending on every damn welfare entitlement and government bureaucracy.

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    Re: Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    But see, thats the damn problem. I fine if EVERYTHING is on the table. But its not. I'd have no problem with pay freezes, bigger Tricare copays if it was part of an across the board cut. I have hard time swallowing that pill when we're increasing spending on every damn welfare entitlement and government bureaucracy.
    As long as a single dollar is spent for medicaid and welfare, military pay, benefits and retiree pay and benefits should never be touched. Cutting those who have sacrificed and did their best to keep this country safe so that you can give freebies to the lazy and stupid who have never contributed much if anything to society and are an overwhelming burden upon our society is ludicrous.

    Military members are not getting paid anywhere near enough for what they do. Five years ago before I retired, I was handing out WIC paper work to married E-5s who had children. Considering the time spend from home, the dangers of the jobs they do, they already sacrifice more than any civilian who never served could possibly understand. That is the ones that don't get messed up or killed doing their jobs. And we pay these people so little that a large number of them qualify for other government assistance programs targeted towards the poor. So this messed up "think tank" thinks that for less money and benefits than a welfare recipient receives, these people should still go ahead and sacrifice themselves for the good of the country? Maybe we should sacrifice this think tank for the good of the country instead.
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