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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Could you briefly describe what a terrorist looks like on a video monitor?

    How does a terrorist look differently than a shepherd, for example?
    Thats what you have ground intel for. And you will notice that in all the examples cited there WERE terrorist targets or terrorist sites listed.

    I get it. You honestly believe the Obama policy is to indiscriminately fly drones around and random pickle off missile and kill civilians for fun. You think they arent using or heading or engaging US and foreign national intel.

    Thats just...goofy.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    What terrorists within our borders are we taking out?

    Pizza deliverymen who are deluded and seduced into thinking they can attack Fort Dix?

    Or enthusiastic young men who think they can attack the Federal Reserve Bank?

    It sounds like you might have watched one too many episodes of 24.
    No no...you listed a few of them. But you missed a few. Relevant point being they are identifying terror threats in the US and acting on them, just as they are identifying them in foreign countries. Job well done...you can sleep just a little bit easier. OR...you can engage the terrorists in your ever so much more successful ways...by all means.

    Of course, in the US, the police and intel agencies can operate a little more effectively than they can in the ME.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Thats what you have ground intel for. And you will notice that in all the examples cited there WERE terrorist targets or terrorist sites listed.

    I get it. You honestly believe the Obama policy is to indiscriminately fly drones around and random pickle off missile and kill civilians for fun. You think they arent using or heading or engaging US and foreign national intel.

    Thats just...goofy.
    Oh, I'm sure they have their methods. Obama and an advisor sit in the Oval Office, and select from a list of people they don't know who shall be killed. Sure, sure, Colonel Klink or some other "intelligence" fellow makes the case against the various targeted individuals. Rather the way they targeted various Vietnamese peasants, "VC sympathizers", during Operation Tailwind.

    Yeah, I know how the military works. The Gulf Of Tonkin Resolution is a good example. Or the Pentagon Papers. Purposeful witholding and distortion of facts.

    And the beat goes on.

    What's sad is that so many otherwise good americans have bought into the sophistry.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    No no...you listed a few of them. But you missed a few. Relevant point being they are identifying terror threats in the US and acting on them, just as they are identifying them in foreign countries. Job well done...you can sleep just a little bit easier. OR...you can engage the terrorists in your ever so much more successful ways...by all means.

    Of course, in the US, the police and intel agencies can operate a little more effectively than they can in the ME.
    You have bought into the sophistry.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Oh, I'm sure they have their methods. Obama and an advisor sit in the Oval Office, and select from a list of people they don't know who shall be killed. Sure, sure, Colonel Klink or some other "intelligence" fellow makes the case against the various targeted individuals. Rather the way they targeted various Vietnamese peasants, "VC sympathizers", during Operation Tailwind.

    Yeah, I know how the military works. The Gulf Of Tonkin Resolution is a good example. Or the Pentagon Papers. Purposeful witholding and distortion of facts.

    And the beat goes on.

    What's sad is that so many otherwise good americans have bought into the sophistry.
    Right. Ive 'bought into it'. That, or I have actually been there and picked up body parts for a decade or so as a result of the ongoing terror attacks and realize they present a real threat and need to be fought...preferably there and not here.

    2 things...

    1-its very sad that you honest to god believe they freely and randomly kill civilians for fun and profit and
    2-Its kinda repulsive that I have had to actually champion Obamas war on terror for 264 posts now.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Right. Ive 'bought into it'. That, or I have actually been there and picked up body parts for a decade or so as a result of the ongoing terror attacks and realize they present a real threat and need to be fought...preferably there and not here.

    2 things...

    1-its very sad that you honest to god believe they freely and randomly kill civilians for fun and profit and
    2-Its kinda repulsive that I have had to actually champion Obamas war on terror for 264 posts now.
    We picked up body parts in UH-1H helicopters in Vietnam too. But the VC were no threat to America, just as Pakistani goat herders are not threats to this country.

    It was a Bright & Shining lie that was told to take us to southeast asia back in the day, and it is Bright & Shining Lie 3 & 4 that took us to southwest asia. What's your point sir? That Pakistani goat herders are a threat to this country?

    That is the sophistry you have bought into. You might find some high school kid who will believe all that nonsense, but I've been there done that. The GWOT is a fraud of epic proportions.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    We picked up body parts in UH-1H helicopters in Vietnam too. But the VC were no threat to America, just as Pakistani goat herders are not threats to this country.

    It was a Bright & Shining lie that was told to take us to southeast asia back in the day, and it is Bright & Shining Lie 3 & 4 that took us to southwest asia. What's your point sir? That Pakistani goat herders are a threat to this country?

    That is the sophistry you have bought into. You might find some high school kid who will believe all that nonsense, but I've been there done that. The GWOT is a fraud of epic proportions.
    Sure it is. Its all a fraud....
    List of terrorist incidents, January

    There is a reason why they arent happening in the US.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

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    Successful at what?
    At killing the enemies of the United States. Try to pay attention.
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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    The US government violates the Constitution in so many ways it is almost impossible to list them all.
    Well, then it's a good thing I didn't ask you to list all of them. I asked you about a very specific example.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    You offer some rather superficial hypotheticals, and I'll not waste my time with them.
    The applicability of my example to the topic at hand is actually quite obvious and I take your pretending otherwise and claims that it's "waste of time" as an equally obvious concession that you have no counterargument.

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    By invading both Afghanistan and Iraq under false pretenses, the government has violated both the Constitution and international law by committing military aggression.
    And Santa Claus comes at Christmas time. But this thread isn't about Santa Claus, Afghanistan, or Iraq.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Could you briefly describe what a terrorist looks like on a video monitor?

    How does a terrorist look differently than a shepherd, for example?
    Shepherds don't carry AK-47s and RPGs, for one.

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