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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    I think they should take to the next logical level, and target anybody at all who criticizes the government or its wars. And then, perhaps, to anybody who criticizes any government official.

    And I'll double down, and say let's just eliminate trials completely. To paraphrase President Nixon, when the President does it, it's legal.
    Right...because THAT is the next logical step...going from someone who leaves the US to train with terrorist groups and plan attacks against US citizens to someone that is critical of the government.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    It is just "rule of law."

    Obama had the law changed so he can order anyone killed or imprisoned - publicly or secretly - that he wants to. A first for any president. Therefore, anyone he has killed or imprisoned is justified by rule of law. Since voters just re-elected him, that also is the democratic will of the people. Voters ratified as democratic process the president can have anyone killed he wants to, so that is the legal justification, ie the president wanted him killed, thus meeting the legally justifiable reason and also in accordance with the democratic will of we the people.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Isn't it so much easier to snipe rather than explain whatever bee you've got in your bonnet? No wonder you've chosen to do it instead.
    In your case yes. Clearly it's a waste to engage with someone whose only tactic is to misconstrue.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    In your case yes. Clearly it's a waste to engage with someone whose only tactic is to misconstrue.
    A "misconstruction" which you are apparently unable to describe. It seems your "only tactic" is to attempt to distract with vague innuendo.
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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    A "misconstruction" which you are apparently unable to describe. It seems your "only tactic" is to attempt to distract with vague innuendo.
    Nothing vague about it. You failed to comprehend the post. Just grow a pair and sack up.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Nothing vague about it. You failed to comprehend the post. Just grow a pair and sack up.
    Yeah. The other kids are calling for you to go back to the jungle gym; run along now.
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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Yeah. The other kids are calling for you to go back to the jungle gym; run along now.
    Wow, that was funny when I was 10.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Truly amazing. If this were GWB, those opposing the current actions by Obama would be leading the charge. Those championing Obamas anti-terror efforts would be burning Bush in effigy. What a country.

    Obama is right to continue the Bush policies re the war on terror. He is right to target specific terrorists. If they happen to have been born on American soil and 'choose' to go to foreign lands to fight for their 'cause', say hello to 'consequence'.
    I would still oppose GWB or any other president in these actions.

    1. You are correct, the 16 year old kid was born in America
    2. You are incorrect in that he 'chose" to go to foreign lands and 'fight' for their cause
    3. Hello consequence

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by hawke812 View Post
    I would still oppose GWB or any other president in these actions.

    1. You are correct, the 16 year old kid was born in America
    2. You are incorrect in that he 'chose" to go to foreign lands and 'fight' for their cause
    3. Hello consequence
    If you choose to drive drunk and choose to do so with your child in the car you MAY suffer the consequence of arrest and having your child taken by COS. You also MAY hit an oncoming truck and kill yourself and your own child. In either case the choice and responsibility belongs to the individual that chooses to act irresponsibly and in a manner that invites consequence. Obama did not send the 16 year old to the ME to hang out with terrorists. Now...if that 16 year old were home on the stoop in Brooklyn and Obama launched a predator strike to take him out...now we are having a completely different conversation. And Im glad to see you are consistent. In opposition but similarly, I support both Bush AND Obama in their efforts to fight terror.
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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    If you choose to drive drunk and choose to do so with your5 child in the car you MAY suffer thew consequence of arrest and having your child taken by COS. You also MAY hit an oncoming truck and kill yourself and your own child. In either case the choice and responsibility belongs to the individual that choses to act irresponsibly and in a manner that invites consequence. Obama did not send the 16 year old to the ME to hang out with terrorists. Now...if that 16 year old were home on the stoop in Brooklyn and Obama launched a predator strike to take him out...now we are having a completely different conversation. And Im glad to see you are consistent. In opposition but similarly, I support both Bush AND Obama in their efforts to fight terror.
    From the article/video:

    <Robert Gibbs defended the strike, not by arguing that the kid was a threat, or that killing him was an accident, but by saying that his late father irresponsibly joined al Qaeda terrorists.>

    This right here is my problem with their "fight on terror". It is not a matter of personal choice & consequence. Obama (administration) has shown a complete lack of regard for civilian casualties. This does not help our cause at all. It only incites more violence and unnecessarily prolongs the war. The killing of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki perfectly shows the administration's mindset.

    The more we disregard civilian casualties, friends and family will take up arms against us, as anyone in that situation would. This means a longer war, and more American lives lost. You can keep supporting this all you want. I will keep voicing my concerns of actions that lead to an endless circle of violence.

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