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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    This is one of the dumbest things I have ever read on this board. Truly, shockingly, astonishingly stupid. The world that you live in which could produce such thoughts is terrifying indeed.

    If the most basic notions of murder aren't enough for you, nor the horror contemplated by it being perfectly legal for the government to kill Americans who merely "hang out with terrorists" if can even be proven that they do, here's a refresher on the 5th Amendment:
    The government deprives people of their lives without due process of law all of the time. It's called war. Or a police shootout. Or any one of a number of other things that occur that cost low lifes their existance without a judge pronouncing a death sentence.

    You want to sympathize with terrorists and their hangers-on, be my guest.
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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    The NYT is merely a mouthpiece for the federal government. As with so many newspapers, it is no longer practicing journalism as it was once known. It merely supports government decisions and actions.
    Yeah, and I understand unless Romney wins the election the UN is invading Texas.
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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Yeah, and I understand unless Romney wins the election the UN is invading Texas.
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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    What law did the government break?
    I'm curious too. This question has been asked repeatedly (in so many words) throughout this thread and no one has provided an answer to it.
    I believe half of the things I say and say half of the things I believe.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    So? The government is still not responsible for the boy being in Yemen or being at a location where the US is known to be actively conducting strikes against Al Qaeda.




    What's there to explain? Civilians and other individuals that we do not intend to kill sometimes get killed by our attacks. It's unfortunate, and our military does its best to avoid such occurrences.

    If there was a continued emerging pattern of US citizens being targeted and killed around the world, that would be pause for concern. I don't find one person whose father was known to be involved with terrorism and who, himself, may or may not have been actively involved with Al Qaeda who was killed in an air strike over a year ago with zero evidence that he was the intended target of said attack to be terribly alarming.
    Well, they need to explain themselves for their actions to determine if they were abusing their powers at the very least. Not just this incident, but all actions. Right now they have free reign to kill anyone they themselves accuse of being a terrorist with no oversight.

    I apologize for wanting to keep the government in check. How Un-American of me. I should be labeled a terrorist now

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by hawke812 View Post
    Well, they need to explain themselves for their actions to determine if they were abusing their powers at the very least. Not just this incident, but all actions. Right now they have free reign to kill anyone they themselves accuse of being a terrorist with no oversight.
    You're being ridiculous. You believe Obama could label Romney a terrorist and kill him with an air strike and there would be no repurcussions?

    Quote Originally Posted by hawke812 View Post
    I apologize for wanting to keep the government in check. How Un-American of me. I should be labeled a terrorist now
    The fact that you're making this comment with such flippancy proves that this fear you are shrieking about that the government is going around labeling whoever they want as a terrorist and murdering them with impunity is completely unfounded.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    You're being ridiculous. You believe Obama could label Romney a terrorist and kill him with an air strike and there would be no repurcussions?



    The fact that you're making this comment with such flippancy proves that this fear you are shrieking about that the government is going around labeling whoever they want as a terrorist and murdering them with impunity is completely unfounded.
    1. I said that

    2.Wanting oversight on the government is "fear" now

    Please, continue

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by hawke812 View Post
    1. I said that
    Yes. You did. You said you believe the government could "kill anyone" they want with no oversight. Sounds ridiculous when it gets played back to you, doesn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by hawke812 View Post
    2.Wanting oversight on the government is "fear" now
    Nope. Fear that the government is going around labeling citizens as terrorists and killing them willy nilly is.

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    Please, continue
    Gladly.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    What law did the government break?
    The US Constitution, Amendment V and Amendment VIII. The document does not give the government the power to execute citizens or persons without due process.

    The Fifth specifies the due process requirement.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    You're being ridiculous. You believe Obama could label Romney a terrorist and kill him with an air strike and there would be no repurcussions?



    The fact that you're making this comment with such flippancy proves that this fear you are shrieking about that the government is going around labeling whoever they want as a terrorist and murdering them with impunity is completely unfounded.
    In the previous post, I forgot to mention Amendment VI.

    Your post here suggests that you are not quite aware of several things. The use of the word "person" in various parts of the Constitution, including those parts relevant to this discussion.

    You also seem to suggest that you deny that the government is killing persons, including US citizens, without any sort of due process. In case you don't know it, the US government employs armed drones in different parts of the globe, and with those drones it kills all manner of innocent people.

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