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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    I'm sorry, but the father was directly responsible for this boy's death. Sucks, doesn't it?
    Care to elaborate?

    Sons bear the sins of the father?

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Irrelevent to the racist piece of crap post that you made Ray. The whole of the Muslim world did not attack the WTT's. Only a few waco's from another country did.
    Yo Stang, Listen up: The inquiry regarding your personal opinion of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center is just as relevant as determining if a witness for the defense in a trial is a released felon, it goes to witness' credibility to comment. At this point, you appear to be an anti-American Muslim. If so, your opinions on any subject pertaining to America are of no value. Plus, on a much smaller level, it's always informative to others if someone runs from a simple question as you did.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Yo Stang, Listen up: The inquiry regarding your personal opinion of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center is just as relevant as determining if a witness for the defense in a trial is a released felon, it goes to witness' credibility to comment. At this point, you appear to be an anti-American Muslim. If so, your opinions on any subject pertaining to America are of no value. Plus, on a much smaller level, it's always informative to others if someone runs from a simple question as you did.
    You disagree with someone, then proceed to accuse them of appearing to be an anti-American Muslim

    Ahh yeah, a shining example of a "true" American

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by hawke812 View Post
    And this is relevant to this thread topic how
    You said that Americans look bad to the rest of the world. I replied that we didn't look bad enough to the Mexicans to stop their invasion. Isn't that relevant to refute your comment?

    Even though I may not be completely accurate because the Mexicans are always complaining that the minimum wage isn't high enough for them to support their huge families in the United States.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    You said that Americans look bad to the rest of the world. I replied that we didn't look bad enough to the Mexicans to stop their invasion. Isn't that relevant to refute your comment?

    Even though I may not be completely accurate because the Mexicans are always complaining that the minimum wage isn't high enough for them to support their huge families in the United States.
    Incorrect sir. You are twisting my words to fit your agenda.

    I said: "To other Americans, and to the rest of the world."

    Did you even notice "To other Americans".Why do you completely ignore my comment of "other Americans"? Do we not deserve consideration to be discussed with the rest of the world? Are we not as good as the Mexicans, to not even be mentioned?

    Shame on you sir, shame

    Edit: And the "Mexican Invasion" as you put it, is irrelevant to how we as Americans look. You bring up a red herring. I don't care how we look to the Mexicans crossing the boarder illegally. That is a completely different and unrelated issue. I care how we as Americans look to other nations and people as an example. We can be better than this. We don't have to look down unto peoples like you do.
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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Yo Stang, Listen up: The inquiry regarding your personal opinion of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center is just as relevant as determining if a witness for the defense in a trial is a released felon, it goes to witness' credibility to comment. At this point, you appear to be an anti-American Muslim. If so, your opinions on any subject pertaining to America are of no value. Plus, on a much smaller level, it's always informative to others if someone runs from a simple question as you did.
    Incorrect. The reason that it is irrelevent is because your original post that I responded to was talking about all Muslims. The only muslims that were responsible for 9/11 were the ones in control of the planes and the ones that planned it. The majority of Muslims had nothing what so ever to do with 9/11 and were just as shocked at what happened as your or I. Yet you are quite willing to lay the blame on all of them. Tell me, do you blame all Americans for Timothy McVeigh? Are all Americans not American because of what he did? How about Christians? Do you blame the whole of Christianity for abortion clinic bombings? No doubt your answer will be no. And that shows how hypocritical and biased and racist and ignorant your post really is.

    To blame the actions of a few on the whole is a sure sign of prejudice and/or ignorance. And anyone with an ounce of sense knows this.

    Sorry but I will not jump on your bandwagon just because I think what the individual Muslims that were the perpetrators in 9/11 did was despicable. I have far more intelligence and common sense than that.
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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    You said that Americans look bad to the rest of the world. I replied that we didn't look bad enough to the Mexicans to stop their invasion. Isn't that relevant to refute your comment?

    Even though I may not be completely accurate because the Mexicans are always complaining that the minimum wage isn't high enough for them to support their huge families in the United States.
    Are you Native American, by any chance?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Are you Native American, by any chance?
    The damage done to the United States by you Mexicans far surpasses anything done to the American Indians. Just in Chicago alone, one single American City, the "Latin Kings" have over 18,000 gang members. Over 200,000 in Southern California alone, all aligned with the Mexican drug cartels.
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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    The damage done to the United States by you Mexicans far surpasses anything done to the American Indians. Just in Chicago alone, one single American City, the "Latin Kings" have over 18,000 gang members. Over 200,000 in Southern California alone, all aligned with the Mexican drug cartels.
    Well, first, the idea that Mexican gangs have done more damage is ludicrous.

    Second, you've missed the point. You are an invader.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Again, for the third time - SOMETHING BEING MADE INTO LAW, DOES NOT MEAN IT'S CONSTITUTIONAL. You're playing the circular logic game. It's constitutional because it hasn't been ruled unconstitutional. That's simply not the case. Something being made into law, does not mean it's constitutional. End - of - story.
    It's constitutional because it falls in line with the powers given to the legislative and executive branches in the constitution, the AUMF was a piece of legislation created over 10 years ago, it's been cited in court cases, the supreme court is well aware of it's existence so yes the fact that they have not ruled it unlawful says a lot, it says enough to reasonably say that it is in line with constitutional law (as we interpret it today). Obviously that can change but it's common knowledge that our views and the way we interpret things change with time and that certain laws change in different generation so I shouldn't have to point that out. It holds even more true since the US Supreme court has in the past supported an increase in the powers of the commander and chief if congress also supports the actions taken by the commander in chief (Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer)

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