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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Aside from the fact that I've lived half my life in Europe, what would I know?

    Europeans learn in their history books and from their grandparents about how Europe used to be the center of the world. The nations of Europe had great empires, they were influential economically, culturally, and militarily.

    Today, a large number of Europeans are envious of American success. Due to their past, they feel entitled to be the kings of the world, and they view the United States with envy and fascination because of our current position.

    Whenever America projects power in the world, Europeans don't like it. Even when it benefits them. Take Ronald Reagan, for instance. Europeans hated Reagan, even though he helped end communism and unify Germany.

    Bush was the worst. First, he was a cowboy - the least European type of man. They couldn't relate to him. Second, he flaunted America's global power and took us to war.

    Obama, on the other hand, is liked in Europe. He is understated about America's might, and he wants to draw down our military. Europeans like this.

    It makes them feel like we're all on an even playing field.
    Europe and their perception of us is quite different from Obama actually making us weaker. You must make that distinction.
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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Weaker militarily.

    True or not, the perception is that Obama has cut the size of our military, and that he is more likely to solve international issues through the UN than directly flaunting America's might.


    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    Europe and their perception of us is quite different from Obama actually making us weaker. You must make that distinction.

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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    only liberals vote early?
    No they just analysed voting patterns and constructed legislation to create roadblocks for certain demo(cratic)graphics.
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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Aside from the fact that I've lived half my life in Europe, what would I know?
    I bet nothing!

    Europeans learn in their history books and from their grandparents about how Europe used to be the center of the world. The nations of Europe had great empires, they were influential economically, culturally, and militarily.
    Yes and that is factual.... and by the way it is the same stuff pretty much that American's learn...... its called history.

    Today, a large number of Europeans are envious of American success. Due to their past, they feel entitled to be the kings of the world, and they view the United States with envy and fascination because of our current position.
    Only the right wing in Europe. The British Conservatives live in the past...Most of Europe have long accepted that their "Empire" is gone.. something that can not be said about Americans, who many deny they even have an Empire with colonies..

    Whenever America projects power in the world, Europeans don't like it. Even when it benefits them. Take Ronald Reagan, for instance. Europeans hated Reagan, even though he helped end communism and unify Germany.
    LOL generalising much? The problem is not that America projects power in the world, it is where and the double standards they project as well. Iraq... enough said.

    Also Ronald Reagan was a right winger during a time of left wing politics in Europe.. is it a shocker they had issues with him? But hated.. hardly.

    Bush was the worst. First, he was a cowboy - the least European type of man. They couldn't relate to him. Second, he flaunted America's global power and took us to war.
    Bush was the worst, not because he was a cowboy, but because he was never elected.. yes I did that.. fact is Europeans are use to the person with most votes wins and that elections are near perfect.. the 2000 elections shattered that illusion about the US.... and then he went into Iraq pissing away all the goodwill he got from 9/11. And the add the arrogance of the Bush administration towards others... we had flashbacks to the bad old days of Empire..

    Obama, on the other hand, is liked in Europe. He is understated about America's might, and he wants to draw down our military. Europeans like this.
    Obama is tolerated because he is not Bush or the GOP. Dont think for a second he is loved or even liked in Europe. Sure even the British conservatives support him, but that is because the GOP and Romney are a danger to the world.

    And I was right, you know very little about Europe.
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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I bet nothing!



    Yes and that is factual.... and by the way it is the same stuff pretty much that American's learn...... its called history.



    Only the right wing in Europe. The British Conservatives live in the past...Most of Europe have long accepted that their "Empire" is gone.. something that can not be said about Americans, who many deny they even have an Empire with colonies..



    LOL generalising much? The problem is not that America projects power in the world, it is where and the double standards they project as well. Iraq... enough said.

    Also Ronald Reagan was a right winger during a time of left wing politics in Europe.. is it a shocker they had issues with him? But hated.. hardly.



    Bush was the worst, not because he was a cowboy, but because he was never elected.. yes I did that.. fact is Europeans are use to the person with most votes wins and that elections are near perfect.. the 2000 elections shattered that illusion about the US.... and then he went into Iraq pissing away all the goodwill he got from 9/11. And the add the arrogance of the Bush administration towards others... we had flashbacks to the bad old days of Empire..



    Obama is tolerated because he is not Bush or the GOP. Dont think for a second he is loved or even liked in Europe. Sure even the British conservatives support him, but that is because the GOP and Romney are a danger to the world.

    And I was right, you know very little about Europe.
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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    No, like passing laws that prevent early voting but making specific allowances for only members of the military.

    Supreme Court allows early voting in Ohio - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com
    Why wouldn't members of the military get that exemption?
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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    And as I continue to read: LOL at almost everyone in this thread. Wow. Just wow.

    From not understanding the point of the UN and whining about it operating inside the US to complaining about American imperialism...just...great thread!
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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    only liberals vote early?
    Isn't it obvious to you what the tactic is? Allow early voting for a specific block who is demographically more conservative, but disallow it for the general population. You should be able to figure this out...
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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Why wouldn't members of the military get that exemption?
    Military members should absolutely be allowed to participate in early voting.

    But so should all other voters as well.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Military members should absolutely be allowed to participate in early voting.

    But so should all other voters as well.
    But if a state decided that in general they didn't want early voting, what's the problem with allowing the military to have it?
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