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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    The USA was a primary player in setting up the UN post WW2 and had a hand in every UN charter and treaty structure.
    True. That doesn't mean we should have been involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    Which UN charter and rights conventions etc do you disapprove of?
    Pretty much every single one of them, if they apply to and thereby limit US Sovereignty.

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    Since the 1960s the US had been the number 1 vetoing member on the security council?
    So what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    What the USA should do is officially get the hell out of the UN.
    Exactly; and kick them out of the US entirely. Withdraw all US military support from UN operations too.

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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post

    Pretty much every single one of them, if they apply to and thereby limit US Sovereignty.



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    UN charters dont impede a nation's soveriegnty. In fact they deal with conflict resolutions BETWEEN nations, and also basci human rights conventions.

    What you are referring to is the self given right for the USA to invade who it likes, when it likes on behalf of its fascist corporate master tyrrants, and kill how ever many civilians it likes, thieve its resources etc, and get away with it - I believe they call it expansionist imperial fascism.

    The reason the USA still LOVES the UN forum (and when I say the UN forum I mean the Security council - not the General assembly, which is far more democratic than the boys club fascist Security council) is that it can DEMAND that other nations adhere to standard UN charters and conventions (except for Israeli, of course, they receive complete US diplomatic protection for their crimes against humanity and veto pathways for their resolution violations)

    I am sure you would retract your statement or at the very least re-word it, so that you dont lose total credibility in here after being utterly slaughtered in public

    cheers

    (the reason I suggested the USA should get the hell out of the UN is that the USA is a fascist totalitarian super rogue state that fights against the spread of democracy and freedom in the world - the record is there for everybody to see, 37 un-provoked military attacks against predominantly defenseless nations, that has resulted in over 23 million civilian deaths just since the end of WW2 alone)
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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    UN charters dont impede a nation's soveriegnty. In fact they deal with conflict resolutions BETWEEN nations, and also basic human rights conventions.
    The only real manner of conflict resolution between nations comes at the business end of a weapon. I believe it's Napoleon who once referred to artillery as "The Final Arguement of Kings."

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    What you are referring to is the self given right for the USA to invade who it likes, when it likes on behalf of its fascist corporate master tyrrants, and kill how ever many civilians it likes, thieve its resources etc, and get away with it - I believe they call it expansionist imperial fascism.
    Personally I'm in favor if Isolationist Authoritarianism, which is similar to what you describe but Isolationist rather than Imperialist in nature.

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    I am sure you would retract your statement or at the very least re-word it, so that you dont lose total credibility in here after being utterly slaughtered in public
    Not in the least. Given the ability to do so I would deport every UN employee and every foreign diplomat on US soil TODAY.

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    (the reason I suggested the USA should get the hell out of the UN is that the USA is a fascist totalitarian super rogue state that fights against the spread of democracy and freedom in the world - the record is there for everybody to see, 37 un-provoked military attacks against predominantly defenseless nations, that has resulted in over 23 million civilian deaths just since the end of WW2 alone)
    Some of us have little use for Democracy and even less for Freedom.

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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    No, they just want an I.D. when people vote, like it already is in Alabama.
    And to suppress voter turn out by limiting early voting only to members of the military, or limit early voting in a number of other ways.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    only liberals vote early?
    It's not that only liberals vote early.

    Rather, statistically speaking, more Democrats vote early than Republicans do.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Wtf. It isn't conservatives they need to be focusing on, when it comes to intimidation tactics and dead voters. As for the UN, it doesn't amount to much more than tin horn dictators and Israel-haters these days, so what does that say?
    It says a lot when outside observers look at this country and think there is something seriously wrong with the conservative party.

    Generally when everyone but yourself thinks there is something wrong with you, there usually is. Not all the time, but I'd say a good majority of the time. Maybe conservatives need to take a good look in the mirror.
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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Some of us have little use for Democracy and even less for Freedom.
    You Heard It Here Folks, Tigger Admitting He Has Little Use For Democracy And Even Less For Freedom!!
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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    You Heard It Here Folks, Tigger Admitting He Has Little Use For Democracy And Even Less For Freedom!!
    Which is no different than what I have been saying throughout my entire tenure here at DP. Most people here are unlikely to be shocked, stunned, or surprised by that, because they've known it for a long time.

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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Which is no different than what I have been saying throughout my entire tenure here at DP. Most people here are unlikely to be shocked, stunned, or surprised by that, because they've known it for a long time.

    That's true. Not stunned at all.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: UN to be at American Polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    No, they just want an I.D. when people vote, like it already is in Alabama.
    Except that real fraud occurs with registrations that aren't turned in

    GOP Distances Itself From Registration Scandal : NPR

    And absentee ballots

    Voter Fraud Confirmed; State Takes Over East Longmeadow Election - Western Massachusetts Breaking News and First Warning Weather with WGGB.com ABC 40

    Voter impersonation, which is the only type of fraud that asking for ID stops, occurs once for every 207 times of other types of fraud.

    In-person voter-impersonation fraud is rare. The database shows 207 cases of other types of fraud for every case of voter impersonation.
    Who Can Vote? - A News21 2012 National Project

    Where are the laws to prevent these things from happening?


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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