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    Re: Free Online Education is Now Illegal in Minnesota

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    This, I think, is going to be the next revolution in education. Even some as simple as youtube is invaluable whenever I need to do some light plumbing or need to learn how to do something ASAP.

    With websites such as this: Learn to code | Codecademy popping up everywhere.

    Just popping up everywhere, I am hoping the next evolution is the growth of certification vs degrees in employer acceptance. Who cares how I learned something if I am verified to know it.

    Education would be so much cheaper and darn near free if it wasn't for employers getting in the way.
    I agree with one caveat. Some of those online degrees cost as much as a bricks and mortar degree so I am still a little skeptical of those. For an older person who just wants the degree, sure. But if an 18 year old asked me, I'd say "Don't do it."

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    The authorities in Minnesota cannot possibly enforce this ban. The Coursera courses offer no certification, hence there can be no fraud or damage. Saying people cannot watch an online lecture, or write a passage or essay cannot possibly be prevented. They clearly don't understand what the sire is offering.

    Btw, just signed up for a Coursera history course. Thanks for bringing this to my attention!
    UVA is supposed to be offering a handful of free non-credit online courses next year. I think one is a World History class in case that interests you.

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    Re: Free Online Education is Now Illegal in Minnesota

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    UVA is supposed to be offering a handful of free non-credit online courses next year. I think one is a World History class in case that interests you.
    Thanks, I'll take a look. UVA being the University of Virginia, right?
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    Re: Free Online Education is Now Illegal in Minnesota

    Yeah. It was something I read about the other day.

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    Re: Free Online Education is Now Illegal in Minnesota

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Yeah. It was something I read about the other day.
    Well, thanks again.
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    Re: Free Online Education is Now Illegal in Minnesota

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    According to Minnesota's Office of Higher Education, it isn't the fact that it's free and online that Minnesota finds problematic...it's the fact that the universities who offer these free courses through Coursera haven't obtained permission or paid the $1,200 application fee. Nevertheless, if free online education providers have to pay a shakedown fee to every local, state, or national government that wants to shake them down, it will be very financially difficult for them to operate.

    Seems like Minnesota needs to update its laws for the 21st century.
    Just another example of the government thinking they need to regulate the internet. I could MAYBE understand if this was a tuition based college, but it's a non-prof. I despise absolutely anyone who prevents the free flow of knowledge.
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    Re: Free Online Education is Now Illegal in Minnesota

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I agree with one caveat. Some of those online degrees cost as much as a bricks and mortar degree so I am still a little skeptical of those. For an older person who just wants the degree, sure. But if an 18 year old asked me, I'd say "Don't do it."
    Reread my post, it was about the rise of free education websites.

    Stuff like this

    Free Online Course Materials | MIT OpenCourseWare

    LearningSpace - The Open University

    Khan Academy

    The wealth of free educational stuff on the itunes store is another.

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    Re: Free Online Education is Now Illegal in Minnesota

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Just another example of the government thinking they need to regulate the internet. I could MAYBE understand if this was a tuition based college, but it's a non-prof. I despise absolutely anyone who prevents the free flow of knowledge.
    Apparently, Minnesota's silly reasoning is that even though Minnesotans don't have to give Coursera any money to take the classes, they still have to invest their time...and therefore the government of Minnesota has the responsibility to make sure they're getting a quality product. Sounds pretty ridiculous to me.
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    Re: Free Online Education is Now Illegal in Minnesota

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Apparently, Minnesota's silly reasoning is that even though Minnesotans don't have to give Coursera any money to take the classes, they still have to invest their time...and therefore the government of Minnesota has the responsibility to make sure they're getting a quality product. Sounds pretty ridiculous to me.
    So perhaps Minnesota should be campaigning to have Jersey Shore and Pro-Wrestling banned from the state's cable TV operators.
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    Re: Free Online Education is Now Illegal in Minnesota

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    The authorities in Minnesota cannot possibly enforce this ban. The Coursera courses offer no certification, hence there can be no fraud or damage. Saying people cannot watch an online lecture, or write a passage or essay cannot possibly be prevented. They clearly don't understand what the sire is offering.

    Btw, just signed up for a Coursera history course. Thanks for bringing this to my attention!
    If you're interested in World History, IMO the best (and most entertaining) free online course is John Green's Crash Course. I highly recommend it.

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    Re: Free Online Education is Now Illegal in Minnesota

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    The authorities in Minnesota cannot possibly enforce this ban. The Coursera courses offer no certification, hence there can be no fraud or damage. Saying people cannot watch an online lecture, or write a passage or essay cannot possibly be prevented. They clearly don't understand what the sire is offering.

    Btw, just signed up for a Coursera history course. Thanks for bringing this to my attention!
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