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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    By progress I mean moving toward a more technological, secular, more productive society. Which would encompass anything from communism to capitalism, but not creating a theological state.

    What I am getting at by my comments that they can oppress themselves is that if they were to form a state were the vast majority had no desire to march into the world of progress, then it wouldnt matter. The Amish don't fit my concept of progress either, but they don't attack thouse that do. They more or less willingly segregate themselves interacting only as much as they really need to.

    That is fine, I wouldn't care at all if the Taliban did that. The problem is, the people of Pakistan are not united with that vision of the future, by and large they want an approach that could broadly fit my term of progress. The second someone imposes thier views with force like this on those that don't share them, and they are the minority, society has the right to get rid of those people.

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

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    Other than that, I am not sure I understand your position.
    Are you in the camp of - they have no right to live as they choose, even though you say - "I personally do not care if they form thier own little Islamic fundamentalist country and oppress each other, but if the want to try and push thier agenda on others then the only option for removal from modern society is by force."
    Because they would be pushing an agenda within their own country, which you seem opposed.
    Ok.....my position

    We need friendly acquaintances, we don't need piss-ant "allies",Excon that we need to prop up, help with security and the rest of the bull****, etc. Especially with Muslim countries, we shouldn't be in the business of nation building. Their culture is too foreign. Not that we can't understand it, its just that it is foreign to our way of doing things and unless you are willing to destroy that culture and rebuild it in our image, trying to graft on our way of doing things just hasn't been proven to work.

    Make it clear to whoever is in charge that it is their country. You don't **** with us and we won't **** with you. **** policing the world and trying to make everyone toe the line regarding human rights. If they want to change it's up to them. Tell the dictator of the decade that we're happy to supply a little monetary assistance from time to time as long as he doesn't become too oppressive AND he keeps the anti-American militants in the dirt. But if he allows terrorists to operate from, train in, have safe haven in his country, then expect a ****load of bombs and no ****ing money. We'll offer the same deal to the survivors or whoever supplants your ass.

    Fair enough?

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Nobody understands why we shot that 14 yr old girl, and now they're saying mean things about us.
    Great find......... thanks for posting.

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Nobody understands why we shot that 14 yr old girl, and now they're saying mean things about us.
    This line cracks me up:

    "Clearly Pakistani reporters should be giving equal weight to the pros and cons of shooting children in the face."

    What a ****ing joke.

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Ok.....my position

    We need friendly acquaintances, we don't need piss-ant "allies",Excon that we need to prop up, help with security and the rest of the bull****, etc. Especially with Muslim countries, we shouldn't be in the business of nation building. Their culture is too foreign. Not that we can't understand it, its just that it is foreign to our way of doing things and unless you are willing to destroy that culture and rebuild it in our image, trying to graft on our way of doing things just hasn't been proven to work.

    Make it clear to whoever is in charge that it is their country. You don't **** with us and we won't **** with you. **** policing the world and trying to make everyone toe the line regarding human rights. If they want to change it's up to them. Tell the dictator of the decade that we're happy to supply a little monetary assistance from time to time as long as he doesn't become too oppressive AND he keeps the anti-American militants in the dirt. But if he allows terrorists to operate from, train in, have safe haven in his country, then expect a ****load of bombs and no ****ing money. We'll offer the same deal to the survivors or whoever supplants your ass.

    Fair enough?
    Fair enough!

    Me. I am not opposed to either action.

    As long as it is clear they do not act outside of their boarders, they can do as they wish. But we know that will eventually be disregarded.

    And if we are to act in either a responsive or preemptive way, we do not need to pussyfoot around.

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