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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It amuses me is that those animals think being un-Islamic is a justifiable reason to shoot someone.
    Why?
    I mean, they see it as something that damages their Country and belief system. If someone in the U.S. releases classified documents, do we not want that person who damaged us to be punished?

    The though process is not really any different except in the specific of what it is thought to be damaging, and in punishment, but sometimes not even then.

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    [COLOR="#442244"]Why?
    I mean, they see it as something that damages their Country and belief system. If someone in the U.S. releases classified documents, do we not want that person who damaged us to be punished?
    Not the same thing.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Not the same thing.
    The thought process is.

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    The thought process is.
    One involves the security of the country the other involves a bunch of animals living in the stone age who are trying to impose their will on the rest of the country through fear. So the thought process is not the same.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And they also have an idea of what encapsulates defeat at the hands of their enemy.

    No it doesn't. It just means that the tactics must be suited to the environment.


    As it is, our hands are tied because we will not do what is necessary.
    It's possible....but

    A-stan has always had war lords. After the fall of the Soviet backed government, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Pakistan all backed rival warlords. The Taliban started in Kandahar, rescuing a couple of young girls who had been kidnapped by a local governor and raped repeatedly. They hung the governor from a tank barrel. Then a couple of militia commanders were fighting to see who got to **** some kid and they rescued the boy. This is 1994. They gained power from there.


    As for nation building, please list our successes since Germany and Japan. And I don't think you could really count them since we didn't change the structure of their governments in a huge way aside from removing a dictatorship Hitler/Tojo.

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Either they have a collective "right" to live as they choose, with their own laws, or they don't.
    Which is it?

    If they do, it doesn't matter.

    If they don't, then we "as in a collective world we", need to be involved in a little more policing action. An not be restrained when doing it.


    So which route do we take?
    They take actions that fight against the progress of society, they need to be removed from society. I personally do not care if they form thier own little Islamic fundamentalist country and oppress each other, but if the want to try and push thier agenda on others then the only option for removal from modern society is by force.

    I think killing is wrong, and very hard to justify but at a certain point people have to be killed to preserve the lives of others in greater numbers. Some consider that a justification for genocide, but with nuclear weapons and such a terror based ideology in the same region, it may be the only way to prevent a much larger loss of life.

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Hmm, mainstream Pakistanis aren't understanding why the big, bad Taliban was justified in shooting a child in the face. Who knew?
    The Pakistani MSM is biased.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    One involves the security of the country the other involves a bunch of animals living in the stone age who are trying to impose their will on the rest of the country through fear. So the thought process is not the same.
    Well, that is definitely one take on it.

    The thought process is the same as already demonstrated.

    Which goes directly to the point of whether or not they should be allowed to live as they choose or should there be interference.






    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    It's possible....but
    Yes it's possible....but we need to be willing to do that which is necessary. Not have our hands tied.


    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    As for nation building, please list our successes since Germany and Japan. And I don't think you could really count them since we didn't change the structure of their governments in a huge way aside from removing a dictatorship Hitler/Tojo.
    We did then what was necessary to get the job done.





    Quote Originally Posted by hikari View Post
    They take actions that fight against the progress of society, they need to be removed from society. I personally do not care if they form thier own little Islamic fundamentalist country and oppress each other, but if the want to try and push thier agenda on others then the only option for removal from modern society is by force.

    I think killing is wrong, and very hard to justify but at a certain point people have to be killed to preserve the lives of others in greater numbers. Some consider that a justification for genocide, but with nuclear weapons and such a terror based ideology in the same region, it may be the only way to prevent a much larger loss of life.
    Progress?
    Such an subjective term.

    Would Islamist not see the whole world becoming Muslim, as progress? To treat every person the same as in this topic if guilty of such actions?
    Of course they would, so let's save the meaningless terminology.

    Other than that, I am not sure I understand your position.
    Are you in the camp of - they have no right to live as they choose, even though you say - "I personally do not care if they form thier own little Islamic fundamentalist country and oppress each other, but if the want to try and push thier agenda on others then the only option for removal from modern society is by force."
    Because they would be pushing an agenda within their own country, which you seem opposed.

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How about a cruise missile, they're pretty unbiased.
    Cruise missiles are so unbiased that they end up killing 200+ civilians for every one Taliban fighter (i. e. the one whose location was based on "suspected sites" ).

    So much for negating the momentum the Western world now has (as a result of the brave teen's stand)

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Hopefully the people of Pakastan will be motivated to rid their country of Taliban. Beliefs or not, the Taliban have no place in todays world, (imo).
    Unfortunately, due to the bungling incompetence of the US military and Pakistani government, they still do.

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