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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    I'm kind of on the fence on this one. On the one hand I think we should only be involved in matters of strategic interest to us, but on the other hand I feel there are some things that are so bad that we simply can't over look them.
    I understand. One day you will make up your mind.

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    I would give them all individual free credit, and when all their farms are mortgaged to no return, I would package them and sell them to the highest bidder. Then, their chauvinist men will be in the same shoes as their abused women. What is even more interesting, those girls don't want to be saved.

    It would have only been better if you had said "highest female bidder".

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Didn't say you did. I was just asking a question.
    Sorry, I misinterpreted what you said. But, yes, the US should seek favorable things. There are probably quite a few different opinions on what would be favorable to the US as of right now.

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic View Post
    Sorry, I misinterpreted what you said. But, yes, the US should seek favorable things. There are probably quite a few different opinions on what would be favorable to the US as of right now.
    As they say. No harm, no foul.

    Any Country should seek what is most favorable to them.


    Hmmmm?

    And to think China as a power house will be doing the same thing in the years to come, which will obviously interfere with what is favorable to the U.S.
    Which brings about the question as to whether or not a Country has a right to use force to obtain those favorable conditions, and even to preemptively take down a powerhouse such as China to prevent them from infringing on future favorabilities.

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Read your history books. The taliban have extremist views, they are still living in the 8th. century. They twist the tenets of their religion for political gain and are quite brutal about it as you already know. They are women haters just like the extreme right wing of the R party is with the likes of Romney-Ryan.

    These religious extremists need to understand and wake up to the fact that time waits for no man, for no religion. Time marches on.

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Either they have a collective "right" to live as they choose, with their own laws, or they don't.
    Which is it?

    If they do, it doesn't matter.

    If they don't, then we "as in a collective world we", need to be involved in a little more policing action. An not be restrained when doing it.


    So which route do we take?
    The mission in A-stan was to get the ones that did 9-11, not nation build. Anybody that thinks we are going to make a core or even seam state out of A-stan needs to re-think.

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The mission in A-stan was to get the ones that did 9-11, not nation build. Anybody that thinks we are going to make a core or even seam state out of A-stan needs to re-think.
    That's ok. But we shouldn't have had our hands tied like they were.
    And then again maybe we should have been in there to nation build.

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    That's ok. But we shouldn't have had our hands tied like they were.
    And then again maybe we should have been in there to nation build.
    The thing is....you're talking about the power of a tribal chief or a muj warlord, the point is this. They aren't oriented to a central power structure and rule by law. It is early feudal. Some tribes or minor warlords may be subservient to a larger warlord, but it doesn't go beyond that. No central government will have the loyalty or obedience of all the afghans. Authority is maintained by force of arms. That makes nation building an exercise in futility.

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Nobody understands why we shot that 14 yr old girl, and now they're saying mean things about us.
    It amuses me is that those animals think being un-Islamic is a justifiable reason to shoot someone. I hope the Pakistanis tear them a new asshole and maybe curb stomp their heads into the ground for what they did to that girl. Animals like that only understand violence so you must use violence against them.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    They aren't oriented to a central power structure and rule by law. It is early feudal. Some tribes or minor warlords may be subservient to a larger warlord, but it doesn't go beyond that.
    And they also have an idea of what encapsulates defeat at the hands of their enemy.

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    That makes nation building an exercise in futility.
    No it doesn't. It just means that the tactics must be suited to the environment.


    As it is, our hands are tied because we will not do what is necessary.

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