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    Re: A Second CEO Threatens To Fire Employees If Obama Is Re-elected

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    I didnt realise that the US president runs the economy?

    I thought you had a free market capitalist system?

    Of course you dont - you have a fascist corpocratic Oligarchical Tyranny.

    After all those trillions of dollars of tax payers money being funneled into inefficient corrupt corporates and banksters - and this is the thanks Obama gets

    Remember what the Banksters told Obama post 2008 GFC - corporate bail outs or we will crash the market completely (and by market they mean Wall street scams and artificial paper trading)

    So why would it surprise anyone that some CEO would act like financial terrorists and unpatriotic fascists?
    (sigh)

    Ok, let me lay this out in a way maybe even you can understand. Most people in this country work for SMALL businesses, not major corporations. Yes, the government panders to the big boys, but it is out of expedience. They can talk to one really big company that is worth 1000X dollars or they can talk to 2000 companies that are each worth 1X dollars and hope to get half of them. In my business I can land a fleet account talking to one guy and get say 30 vehicles to work on or I can put in much more time and effort and find 15 new customers who each have 2 cars.

    Here is what WE as small business owners are looking at coming in to this election. First, there is tax stability. There are a lot of investors out there who have a lot of money, but they are waiting until the election to see what their tax rates will be and how long they will be stable.I expect if Romney wins this investors will be immediately putting up growth capital. Where I am there are several production companies (such as NOK) who are waiting on this to decide how aggressively they will push growth, which means jobs. Those jobs translate to more people in the area making a paycheck, which leads to more potential customers for me, which leads to me hiring more techs. I'll be keeping a close eye on my work load from mid November to mid December. If things are up (lower unemployment in the area, higher retail sales numbers) I will bring on another tech about the first of the year. If those markers don't hit I will be looking at my next event marker, which is tax return season. Simply put there is a guy I already have in mind, and his immediate employment future is dependent on the effects of this election.

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    Re: A Second CEO Threatens To Fire Employees If Obama Is Re-elected

    Where are the threats?

    He doesn't even mention firing people, he says they may not continue to be an independent company.


    Quote Originally Posted by hikari View Post
    The sky is falling and I didn't know?!?

    The CEOs are just being stupid, "oh no, New regulations and I might have to adapt?" Talk about whining, Obama will probably win and give us another lackluster 4 years in which the sky won't fall and we won't be raptured by the glory of the free market either. It amazes me that anyone older than a teenager isn't mature enough to realize all this doom and gloom stuff never pans out.
    Companies DO adapt to regulations, usually by firing people.
    One who makes himself a worm cannot complain when tread upon.

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    Re: A Second CEO Threatens To Fire Employees If Obama Is Re-elected

    Quote Originally Posted by helix2048 View Post
    A Second CEO Threatens To Fire Employees If Obama Is Re-elected



    Is it me, or is this kind of bullying a bunch of BS? I don't think it should be legal for employers to pull this kind of stuff. People have the right to vote for whoever they want.
    It's not a threat it's just a sad fact and the reverse is also true. I told a couple of my laid off employees if Romney is elected I will hire them back. I am tired of doing the hard labor I used to have young men help me with and if Romney is elected I will feel more confident in putting a couple of guys back on the payroll.

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    Re: A Second CEO Threatens To Fire Employees If Obama Is Re-elected

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    It's not a threat it's just a sad fact and the reverse is also true. I told a couple of my laid off employees if Romney is elected I will hire them back. I am tired of doing the hard labor I used to have young men help me with and if Romney is elected I will feel more confident in putting a couple of guys back on the payroll.
    So economic conditions don't regulate your business decisions, it's soley based on partisan politics?


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: A Second CEO Threatens To Fire Employees If Obama Is Re-elected

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So economic conditions don't regulate your business decisions, it's soley based on partisan politics?
    My decision is based on the fact that if obama is reelected I expect things to get worse, if Romney is elected I expect things to get better. Perception is sometimes reality and so many business people think this way that if Romney wins the economy will almost instantly improve. Right now in this obama world people are hesitant to hire or invest.

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    Re: A Second CEO Threatens To Fire Employees If Obama Is Re-elected

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    So what you're saying is that it's okay for Romney to flip flop because he's a Republican, but when Obama can't fulfill campaign promises because of hostility from Congress he's a liar because he's a Democrat.
    How false can you be?

    1. Obama had a majority of Democrats in both the House and Senate. Obama did not even propose what promised.
    2. For the Bush tax cuts to expire, Obama had to do nothing. Instead, after the election, he personally endorsed renewing them. They are now NOT the Bush tax cuts, but the OBAMA tax cuts. If he wanted tax cuts for the middle class, he could have proposed this to his Democratic Congress. He did not.
    3. He vowed to close Gitmo within 1 year. All it would take is his signature since he is commander-in-chief. He did not do so.

    If Obama was incapable of doing anything but the exact opposite of what he promised because he couldn't work with a Democratic majority in both the House and Senate, then at best Obama is totally incompetent, isn't he? Republican in Congress were an irrelevancy in terms of legislation his first 2 years.

    To claim a candidate cannot change his position would be just claiming everyone is obligated to be pigheaded ignorant unable to change, modify or compromise.

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    Re: A Second CEO Threatens To Fire Employees If Obama Is Re-elected

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So economic conditions don't regulate your business decisions, it's soley based on partisan politics?
    Economic conditions are the biggest problem Obama has to re-election. I thought everyone knew that.

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    Re: A Second CEO Threatens To Fire Employees If Obama Is Re-elected

    Wow! Looks like we've got a few little Soviet Union created inside of American corporations. That said, I realize that inside private companies...they aren't democracies. The same can be said for a lot of institutions. But the CEO's threats are completely silly. He'll find himself bogged down in a **** load of lawsuits if he carry's out such a threat.

    Employees inside any given corporation can't control the voting behaviors of a nation. I mean it is beyond ridiculous.

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    Re: A Second CEO Threatens To Fire Employees If Obama Is Re-elected

    How is this different from Unions going to extreme lengths using fear of employment and everything else to convince members to vote Democrat and even driving them to the polls to vote?

    Any problem if companies drove employees to the polls to vote after explaining their lives will be totally ruined unless they vote Republican?

    I tired long ago of Democratic rabid hatred of corporations.

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    Re: A Second CEO Threatens To Fire Employees If Obama Is Re-elected

    I think it unethical for an employer to not tell employees known election outcome effects on them. Not to do is is basically deception and trickery.

    Many companies and owners have stated they will take their employees part-time to avoid it - then also avoiding many other benefits costs. Many companies already do that - for which people have to travel between 2 and 3 jobs to make 1 full time income - plus the travel time and expenses between jobs at their own expense.

    A woman we know very well told her employees that if Obama is re-elected, ObamaCare will go into full effect. She can not afford any more government add-ons to what she has to pay and regrettably she will take them to all part time employment, doubling the number of employees but none working full time. That is not a bluff-scare. It is what she is going to do.
    We also know a couple of senior aged small business owners who said they are going to just shut down and retire (laying everyone off permanently) if Obama is re-elected.

    Why do you think employees don't have a right to know the real, direct consequences on them with the outcome of the election?

    And it raises a real question too, of why are small business owners so INTENSELY anti-Obama if he is so good for the economy? 100% we know ALL are - and some say they were lifelong Democrats prior. Has the private sector and the Democratic Party always been at total war against each other, or is this some new Obama thing?

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