Cleveland Bus Driver Suspended After Decking Unruly Female Rider With Brutal Bolo Pun

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personally...never not ever. But...a few things.

1-In the era of equal rights, how is 'but she is a woman...' even a consideration to society at large?
2-Gone unnoticed is, she took his best punch like a champ and was right back on her feet.

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VanceMack said:

personally...never not ever. But...a few things.

1-In the era of equal rights, how is 'but she is a woman...' even a consideration to society at large?
2-Gone unnoticed is, she took his best punch like a champ and was right back on her feet.

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I didn't post anything about her being a woman. I think it's immaterial in this particular case. She may have been right back on her feet, but then he grabbed her by the hair and threw her off the bus. What the hell is wrong with you guys? This is machismo thing with you three, I think: "No woman's gunna' hit ME and get away with it."

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MaggieD said:

I didn't post anything about her being a woman. I think it's immaterial in this particular case. She may have been right back on her feet, but then he grabbed her by the hair and threw her off the bus. What the hell is wrong with you guys? This is machismo thing with you three, I think: "No woman's gunna' hit ME and get away with it."

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You missed the first line apparently. I dont think its right and I would personally never hit a woman. i think there is more honor in getting your ass kicked by a woman than striking back...but thats me. That wasnt the point. The point was that 1-seriously...what exactly does 'equality' mean...why is the womans gender an issue and 2-jokingly...girls got a jaw like Iron Mike.

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VanceMack said:

You missed the first line apparently. I dont think its right and I would personally never hit a woman. i think there is more honor in getting your ass kicked by a woman than striking back...but thats me. That wasnt the point. The point was that 1-seriously...what exactly does 'equality' mean...why is the womans gender an issue and 2-jokingly...girls got a jaw like Iron Mike.

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I did miss the first line. Glad you pointed that out.

One of my best friends had a husband who used to "chest bump" her all over the house, hands behind his back. Somehow he thought that was okay. Until he chest-bumped her backwards into a coffee table that broke and cut her up pretty bad. She divorced him. He's a mental case. She's a successful professional. He's homeless. Karma.

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The woman was a loud mouth idiot. The driver should have stopped the bus, called the police, and she would have spent the night in jail and had to face criminal charges. The bus folks would have banned her for life (at least they do that around here when assaulting a bus driver).

But he (the driver) chose to go his own way. It may have given him (and some of the rest of us) some momentary satisfaction, but he lost the option to be the victim. Now, she'll probably be excused her moron behavior and get a nice check to boot. The driver will probably lose his job at minimum.

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Meh. I don't care about gender, self-defense issues or disproportionate use of force. This guy made his employers look bad by assaulting a passenger. I don't care if the other person started it. He acted in an unprofessional manner. He deserves his suspension. Heck, he deserves to be fired.

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Goshin said:

It isn't a fallacy. When someone starts **** with you, and then escalates it by hitting you, you have every right to retaliate in kind. She was still standing there within easy distance to resume her assault, still running her mouth, still with a major attitude problem, still a potential threat.

The foul mouthed hateful bitch got what she deserved. Hopefully she learned something from it, but I doubt that since she's obviously a ****ing idiot.


The law needs to be changed to "don't start **** you can't finish, dumbass."

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While I agree with the "principle" you state, it has to be also within the context of reality too. It seems you are trying to make raw principles apply beyond what they should. While her slapping him was an "assault," it also was not her trying to hurt him. He most definitely did want to hurt her.

There are aspects of it I don't know. What had he said before she slapped him? I think there are things a man can saw for which it is entirely reasonable for the woman to slap the man. And I don't think the man gets to beat the crap out of her doing so. If he wants to slap her back? Slap her back.

A slap, in my opinion, is one of those quasi-violent acts - unless a full force knockdown hit. I don't think a woman slapping a man justifies the man thinking about it a couple seconds, and then upper cutting the woman cutting off her tongue and shattering her teeth, and then picking her up and throwing her down metal stairs onto concrete. It'd be different if she had jabbed her fingernails into his eyes or was pepper spraying him. But a slap?

What if that was a video of a couple? The bus driver the husband. Wife rages and slaps him. He upper cuts her a a couple seconds later and throws her down the stairs onto the concrete? You say "that's ok, she started it?"

You are a cop arriving at a domestic scene and blood is pouring out of the woman's mouth, her teeth shattered and end of tongue on the ground, her arm broken and her back broken her apparently broken from him throwing her down a staircase and then down onto concrete - and the man twice her size explains to you "that's what that mouth bitch deserved for slapping me!" As a cop you'd say, "that's true, you're right, if she slapped you then she had it coming." ?

And if she had been killed in hitting the concrete, that's what she gets for slapping a man?

When I saw that I thought what if that young woman had been my wife or daughter? He'd have to go in hiding for the rest of his life. Same if some man had done that to one of the dancers who slapped him in my club years. The management would have him hunted down and beat within an inch of his life.

You don't beat the hell out a woman for slapping you. Call me a sexist or not, men just don't do that particularly to women half their size.

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This is not okay. The only time i can see as hitting a woman being ok if she is threatening your life or someones you love life. I dont support this action this is not ok in my book.

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MaggieD said:

Do I remember you're a retired LEO? If that's the case, I am amazed and disappointed with your answer. You know that isn't right. It may be macho, but it isn't right. And it isn't legal.

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But it was amazingly satisfying. And maybe that is enough.

I was on a bus with two large Hawaiian. They were loud, obnoxious, and trying very hard to fight with one another. The people on the bus tried to move as far away as they could. I stood up, and yelled as loud as I could, "Sit down and shut up." They did.

At the next stop they got off the bus to continue their foolishness in the street. People like that deserve to take a beating.

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MaggieD said:

Now that's completely different, James. You know that. The video clearly shows that, if she did slap him, she immediately moved away and disengaged. Could he pull out a gun and shoot her? Could he punch her three times in the stomach? Could he punch her with a roundhouse to the face, take her by the hair and physically throw her from the bus?? I say no. If you think he can, you'd better carry some phone numbers with you for bond requests.

I think this is one of those times when the poster ought to admit he didn't think it through and admit that the bus driver over-reacted after the woman moved away, and assaulted the woman rather than acted in self-defense. But, hey. That's just me.

I'm thinking James is young and he's sorting things out. It's Goshin that amazes me.

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Sorry about that. I hadn't had my supper yet and my inner Chaosian was raising hell. I'm a bit calmer now that I am outside a nice quantity of shrimp and crab souffle. :mrgreen:

Legally, yes, if someone initiates a fight and then makes an obvious and clear attempt to withdraw and end the conflict, you are not legally allowed to follow them and resume it at that point.

Item one, I don't particularly like that law, as it allows some chicken**** to hit you and then run away, safe from harm.

Item two, I am not sure whether she fulfilled the legal requirements of "attempting to retreat". She withdrew only a few steps... she did not leave the bus. She remained close enough to instantly renew her assault and battery of the driver if she so pleased. She continued to behave in a hostile manner, running her mouth and exhibiting a hostile attiude moments after striking the driver. It is quite debateable whether a court will agree that her actions constitute "a clear attempt to retreat and withdraw from the conflict" or not.

Now, yes the smart thing for the driver to do would have been to step out of the bus and call the police, have her arrested and banned from the bus. The uppercut was legally questionable to be sure. However, most of my sympathies lie with the bus driver. He was being harassed and attacked, and he was pissed off and not in a cool and calculating emotional state (like those who are sharply criticising his actions, armchair quarterback style, here are). The girl who struck him did not come across as some nice girl who'd lost her temper... she comes across as a big-mouthed THUG with a huge attitude and a belief that she can say and do whatever she wants without fear of consequences. If she were a man who'd acted in that manner, I think a LOT of the posters in this thread would be singing a very different tune.

As it is, I've seen enough aggressive and violent behavor out of some women that my once-gentle regard for the "fairer sex" has largely eroded, and I tend to agree with what the bus driver said: "she wants to act like a man, she can take it like a man". That feminine-privilege pool has been peed in too often; too many women have used the excuse of their gender as an excuse to assault a man and think they'll get away with it. I'm done with that stuff.

If it was a guy, I'd say "the bus driver could have been smarter, but the jerk deserved it." Well since we have sexual equality these days, I'm giving the girl the benefit of the same opinion.

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Goshin said:

Sorry about that. I hadn't had my supper yet and my inner Chaosian was raising hell. I'm a bit calmer now that I am outside a nice quantity of shrimp and crab souffle. :mrgreen:

Legally, yes, if someone initiates a fight and then makes an obvious and clear attempt to withdraw and end the conflict, you are not legally allowed to follow them and resume it at that point.

Item one, I don't particularly like that law, as it allows some chicken**** to hit you and then run away, safe from harm.

Item two, I am not sure whether she fulfilled the legal requirements of "attempting to retreat". She withdrew only a few steps... she did not leave the bus. She remained close enough to instantly renew her assault and battery of the driver if she so pleased. She continued to behave in a hostile manner, running her mouth and exhibiting a hostile attiude moments after striking the driver. It is quite debateable whether a court will agree that her actions constitute "a clear attempt to retreat and withdraw from the conflict" or not.

Now, yes the smart thing for the driver to do would have been to step out of the bus and call the police, have her arrested and banned from the bus. The uppercut was legally questionable to be sure. However, most of my sympathies lie with the bus driver. He was being harassed and attacked, and he was pissed off and not in a cool and calculating emotional state (like those who are sharply criticising his actions, armchair quarterback style, here are). The girl who struck him did not come across as some nice girl who'd lost her temper... she comes across as a big-mouthed THUG with a huge attitude and a belief that she can say and do whatever she wants without fear of consequences. If she were a man who'd acted in that manner, I think a LOT of the posters in this thread would be singing a very different tune.

As it is, I've seen enough aggressive and violent behavor out of some women that my once-gentle regard for the "fairer sex" has largely eroded, and I tend to agree with what the bus driver said: "she wants to act like a man, she can take it like a man". That feminine-privilege pool has been peed in too often; too many women have used the excuse of their gender as an excuse to assault a man and think they'll get away with it. I'm done with that stuff.

If it was a guy, I'd say "the bus driver could have been smarter, but the jerk deserved it." Well since we have sexual equality these days, I'm giving the girl the benefit of the same opinion.

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Now there's the Goshin I know and love!

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joko104 said:

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There are aspects of it I don't know. What had he said before she slapped him? I think there are things a man can saw for which it is entirely reasonable for the woman to slap the man. And I don't think the man gets to beat the crap out of her doing so. If he wants to slap her back? Slap her back.

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No sir, that day has passed. A man cannot slap a woman for something she said, so a woman cannot slap a man for something he says. Sexual equality before the law. The days of Bogart saying "If a dame wants to slap you, you'll take it and like it!" have passed; that ship has sailed.

And it well should have... there are more and more women these days who are not remotely "ladies" in any sense of the term, who are as aggressive and foul-mouthed as any thug, and violent on top of it, and it is past time they stopped thinking they can slap a man and get away with it. The privilege has been abused too often.

You don't beat the hell out a woman for slapping you. Call me a sexist or not, men just don't do that particularly to women half their size.

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Do we know it was a slap? From the video I could not tell, someone was in the way of the camera.

Under the law, a threat of harm is assault; striking someone or engaging in unwanted rough contact of any kind is battery.

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I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me what a Brutal Bolo Pun is. :mrgreen:


Does it involve Polo Ponies? :lamo

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Goshin said:

I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me what a Brutal Bolo Pun is. :mrgreen:


Does it involve Polo Ponies? :lamo

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The "ch" as in punch didn't fit in the thread title:

A bolo punch is a flashy wide sweeping uppercut that is more about showboating than power. The bolo punch might not even be thrown at all but rather used to distract the opponent so you can hit them with your other hand.

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Goshin said:

No sir, that day has passed. A man cannot slap a woman for something she said, so a woman cannot slap a man for something he says. Sexual equality before the law. The days of Bogart saying "If a dame wants to slap you, you'll take it and like it!" have passed; that ship has sailed.

And it well should have... there are more and more women these days who are not remotely "ladies" in any sense of the term, who are as aggressive and foul-mouthed as any thug, and violent on top of it, and it is past time they stopped thinking they can slap a man and get away with it. The privilege has been abused too often.


Do we know it was a slap? From the video I could not tell, someone was in the way of the camera.

Under the law, a threat of harm is assault; striking someone or engaging in unwanted rough contact of any kind is battery.

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One of Tom's regular passengers is on parole. His "girlfriend" (in quotes because I use the term ever-so-loosely) regularly punches and slaps him trying to get him to swing at her so he'll go back to jail. Personally? I think the guy's nuts. But. Some guys just want a warm place to put it, yes?

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MaggieD said:

The "ch" as in punch didn't fit in the thread title:

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Hm. I've fought in boxing and kickboxing matches, in the street and in bar brawls and worse, and that's a new one on me.


Then again, I'm gettin' kinda old too.....

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Here's a second video which shows how long the woman was harrassing the driver before he assaulted her.

The amazing thing is that people on the bus just watched and filmed it. The woman was putting their lives in danger as the man was driving under duress. Even the guy in high visibility jacket did nothing.

However, it's still very uncomfortable viewing when a woman (or anyone) gets a full force punch.

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Arcana XV said:

Meh. I don't care about gender, self-defense issues or disproportionate use of force. This guy made his employers look bad by assaulting a passenger. I don't care if the other person started it. He acted in an unprofessional manner. He deserves his suspension. Heck, he deserves to be fired.

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I can't believe it took 4 pages for someone to come up with this salient point. First and foremost, the driver was supposed to be a professional and I have no doubt that his job description included steps on how to handle such situation. Had he kept his pie hole shut and called the police, chances are neither would have been assaulted (apart from him being verbally so). Instead, he acted like a bitch himself and things grew from there. He knew better, but chose not to take the high professional road. And for that, he will have major consequences to pay.

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MaggieD said:

Now that's completely different, James. You know that. The video clearly shows that, if she did slap him, she immediately moved away and disengaged. Could he pull out a gun and shoot her? Could he punch her three times in the stomach? Could he punch her with a roundhouse to the face, take her by the hair and physically throw her from the bus?? I say no. If you think he can, you'd better carry some phone numbers with you for bond requests.

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If you are going to use the proportional force argument then it can be used in other situations including rape,home burglary and so on.Assault is assault.

I think this is one of those times when the poster ought to admit he didn't think it through and admit that the bus driver over-reacted after the woman moved away, and assaulted the woman rather than acted in self-defense. But, hey. That's just me.

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If she got off the bus then that would be considered withdrawing from a fight. If she went all the way to the back of the bus, shut up, and sat back then it could be considered withdrawing from a fight.

Taking a few steps back,hurling racial epithets and talking smack/inciting the person you just hit is not withdrawing from a fight, its escalating a fight.

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Marconi said:

Here's a second video which shows how long the woman was harrassing the driver before he assaulted her.

The amazing thing is that people on the bus just watched and filmed it. The woman was putting their lives in danger as the man was driving under duress. Even the guy in high visibility jacket did nothing.

However, it's still very uncomfortable viewing when a woman (or anyone) gets a full force punch.

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She pushed him when the bus was stopped. I'm sorry, but a person doesn't get pushed, then rise up, walk over and give somebody a roundhouse punch to the face, grab her by the hair and physically throw her off the bus.

Having said that? She got exactly what she asked for. I don't mean "she asked for it," I mean she wanted a confrontation, wanted the guy to completely lose it, and he did.

I love the radio guy. "Black men! Stay away from black women!!!!" Ya'll ought to listen to him on the rest of the video. I've never heard someone in the black community lay into another black in quite that fashion. And she deserved it. "He loses his job and the black bitch goes back home."

IMO, no one should have to take that kind of verbal abuse. Maybe we need to think about there being a real crime called "verbal assault." The guy's only way out of that mess was to pull over, stop the bus, get out on the sidewalk and call the police. He probably thought he'd lose his job if he did that. Really? This guy was in a no-win scenerio.

He did the wrong thing. But I think most people can understand how/why he made that decision. This totally reminds me of domestic disputes. A woman intentionally pushes buttons, pushes buttons, follows a guy room to room, in his face -- until he can't take it anymore. The lesson to every​ man ought to be to stay away from women like this. If you're at home? Get your keys and leave. Period. Otherwise, you'll be the one going to jail.

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MaggieD said:

She pushed him when the bus was stopped. I'm sorry, but a person doesn't get pushed, then rise up, walk over and give somebody a roundhouse punch to the face, grab her by the hair and physically throw her off the bus.

Having said that? She got exactly what she asked for. I don't mean "she asked for it," I mean she wanted a confrontation, wanted the guy to completely lose it, and he did.

I love the radio guy. "Black men! Stay away from black women!!!!" Ya'll ought to listen to him on the rest of the video. I've never heard someone in the black community lay into another black in quite that fashion. And she deserved it. "He loses his job and the black bitch goes back home."

IMO, no one should have to take that kind of verbal abuse. Maybe we need to think about there being a real crime called "verbal assault." The guy's only way out of that mess was to pull over, stop the bus, get out on the sidewalk and call the police. He probably thought he'd lose his job if he did that. Really? This guy was in a no-win scenerio.

He did the wrong thing. But I think most people can understand how/why he made that decision. This totally reminds me of domestic disputes. A woman intentionally pushes buttons, pushes buttons, follows a guy room to room, in his face -- until he can't take it anymore. The lesson to every​ man ought to be to stay away from women like this. If you're at home? Get your keys and leave. Period. Otherwise, you'll be the one going to jail.

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Quoted for wisdom and truth.

I've been in a relationship with an abusive woman. I was smart: I could have broken her in half, instead I broke her in COURT. If any woman I'm involved with EVER strikes me in anger ONCE, I walk and I will never see her again.

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This Girl reminds me of the Dave Chappelle Skit called "When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong" As much as it pains me to say it the driver was in the wrong. She was asking for it, and got it but that was a hellavu punch. Even after that she was still fighting him so it's doubtful she learned anything. I am afraid it will take something much worse in order for her to learn a lesson, and it will likely be a game ender. All the driver did was get himself in trouble for this piece of trash. Now she is going to start a lawsuit and win, and he is just going to get fired. I bet he felt better after but long term is he is going to be looking for a job. Too bad!

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WIll you read me say the driver was 100% right and made all the right decisions? hell no! of course not but people that know me know im a big fan of the domino effect end typically domino one is where the focus needs to be. That doesnt make it RIGHT but its still where all the problems stem from.


Bottom line if you dont want to be assaulted and or killed, dont assault anybody else :shrug: this is basic common sense and reality that people need to understand ESPECIALLY some women who seem to be totally unaware of this fact.

now am i saying she should have been killed? of course not but what I am saying you dont get to cry about what happens to you after you hit somebody IMO. Legal, yes you can but thats not life or reality.


I feel bad for this guy, from personal experience i can relate. Again not saying he was all in the right but its funny how quickly people jump on the lady bandwagon, well i didnt see any lady in that video. And i have to agree with goshin if she was a he this is probably never viral news.


If I push somebody or assault them in anger and thye break my jaw, IMO guess what thats my fault.

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MaggieD said:

She pushed him when the bus was stopped. I'm sorry, but a person doesn't get pushed, then rise up, walk over and give somebody a roundhouse punch to the face, grab her by the hair and physically throw her off the bus.

Having said that? She got exactly what she asked for. I don't mean "she asked for it," I mean she wanted a confrontation, wanted the guy to completely lose it, and he did.

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MaggieD said:

I love the radio guy. "Black men! Stay away from black women!!!!" Ya'll ought to listen to him on the rest of the video. I've never heard someone in the black community lay into another black in quite that fashion. And she deserved it. "He loses his job and the black bitch goes back home."

IMO, no one should have to take that kind of verbal abuse. Maybe we need to think about there being a real crime called "verbal assault." The guy's only way out of that mess was to pull over, stop the bus, get out on the sidewalk and call the police. He probably thought he'd lose his job if he did that. Really? This guy was in a no-win scenerio.

He did the wrong thing. But I think most people can understand how/why he made that decision. This totally reminds me of domestic disputes. A woman intentionally pushes buttons, pushes buttons, follows a guy room to room, in his face -- until he can't take it anymore. The lesson to every​ man ought to be to stay away from women like this. If you're at home? Get your keys and leave. Period. Otherwise, you'll be the one going to jail.

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Maggie, normally I find you incredibly sane, reasonable, and well worth every syllable, but on this? I think we are not going to see eye to eye.

This woman was a bully. What stops bullies? a good old fashioned ass-whooping. She got it in spades, and as even you pointed out, it was well deserved.
As far as the domestic abuse argument, I say drop the faux equality rule of law, let him whoop her ass, and then cart them both off to jail. Enough women lose their pretty looks, and they may think twice about doing stupid crap like what you described above (domestic violence). I say this knowing that my father-in-law, while he was married to my mother-in-law, was beaten upon by her and he ended up going to jail for grabbing her arm and pushing her away all because a bruise formed on her arm.

Bullies need to have the **** kicked out of them, regardless of gender. No law needed.

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Marconi said:

Here's a second video which shows how long the woman was harrassing the driver before he assaulted her.

The amazing thing is that people on the bus just watched and filmed it. The woman was putting their lives in danger as the man was driving under duress. Even the guy in high visibility jacket did nothing.

However, it's still very uncomfortable viewing when a woman (or anyone) gets a full force punch.

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The radio guy called it! I suggest women think about what they expect when they step into a situation where they intend to match strength and speed with a man, like this woman did. She harrassed him until he went passed his limit. The reaction of some women bears out as the radio guy said, you'll jump in there to defend the woman, no matter what. The bus driver called it, he knew when she step out of her domain as a woman and stepped into his domain. Most men on here know exactl what I'm talking about. You know when a woman has gone over the line, or you would recognize it. It takes a lot for woman to get to that point to. Woman hits you like she wants to fight you, then she's stepped out of her domain and stepped into yours, just like the radio guy called it. That woman got what she deserved, and I'm surprised he didn't throw her ass out of the bus door. She was stupid to get back up again and try to continue, because he had decided that she was still acting like a man. I don't say this lightly because most men will allow a woman to hit them without doing anything, depending on the nature of the punch.

Bottomline, you think you're big enough and bad enough to stand toe to toe with a man, then you go right ahead at your own risk. Don't expect to be treated like a woman, the way most men are brought up. I agree with Goshin on this. This bitch was stupid doing what she did. Unfortunately the bus company has no choice, because of their own rules, civil law and politics. Frankly I think that bus driver was still restraining himself even after he started punching her, because if he had gone all out she would have been bleeding all over that bus and certianly wouldn't have continued running her mouth.

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an example of the double standard. she was clearly a hostile, violent lady, who needed to be arrested. instead, this poor guy takes the fall for her violent ignorance. good game, sexism, man 0, woman 1.