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    Re: Cleveland Bus Driver Suspended After Decking Unruly Female Rider With Brutal Bolo

    Here's a second video which shows how long the woman was harrassing the driver before he assaulted her.

    The amazing thing is that people on the bus just watched and filmed it. The woman was putting their lives in danger as the man was driving under duress. Even the guy in high visibility jacket did nothing.

    However, it's still very uncomfortable viewing when a woman (or anyone) gets a full force punch.



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    Re: Cleveland Bus Driver Suspended After Decking Unruly Female Rider With Brutal Bolo

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Meh. I don't care about gender, self-defense issues or disproportionate use of force. This guy made his employers look bad by assaulting a passenger. I don't care if the other person started it. He acted in an unprofessional manner. He deserves his suspension. Heck, he deserves to be fired.
    I can't believe it took 4 pages for someone to come up with this salient point. First and foremost, the driver was supposed to be a professional and I have no doubt that his job description included steps on how to handle such situation. Had he kept his pie hole shut and called the police, chances are neither would have been assaulted (apart from him being verbally so). Instead, he acted like a bitch himself and things grew from there. He knew better, but chose not to take the high professional road. And for that, he will have major consequences to pay.
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    Re: Cleveland Bus Driver Suspended After Decking Unruly Female Rider With Brutal Bolo

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Now that's completely different, James. You know that. The video clearly shows that, if she did slap him, she immediately moved away and disengaged. Could he pull out a gun and shoot her? Could he punch her three times in the stomach? Could he punch her with a roundhouse to the face, take her by the hair and physically throw her from the bus?? I say no. If you think he can, you'd better carry some phone numbers with you for bond requests.
    If you are going to use the proportional force argument then it can be used in other situations including rape,home burglary and so on.Assault is assault.

    I think this is one of those times when the poster ought to admit he didn't think it through and admit that the bus driver over-reacted after the woman moved away, and assaulted the woman rather than acted in self-defense. But, hey. That's just me.
    If she got off the bus then that would be considered withdrawing from a fight. If she went all the way to the back of the bus, shut up, and sat back then it could be considered withdrawing from a fight.

    Taking a few steps back,hurling racial epithets and talking smack/inciting the person you just hit is not withdrawing from a fight, its escalating a fight.
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    Re: Cleveland Bus Driver Suspended After Decking Unruly Female Rider With Brutal Bolo

    Quote Originally Posted by Marconi View Post
    Here's a second video which shows how long the woman was harrassing the driver before he assaulted her.

    The amazing thing is that people on the bus just watched and filmed it. The woman was putting their lives in danger as the man was driving under duress. Even the guy in high visibility jacket did nothing.

    However, it's still very uncomfortable viewing when a woman (or anyone) gets a full force punch.
    She pushed him when the bus was stopped. I'm sorry, but a person doesn't get pushed, then rise up, walk over and give somebody a roundhouse punch to the face, grab her by the hair and physically throw her off the bus.

    Having said that? She got exactly what she asked for. I don't mean "she asked for it," I mean she wanted a confrontation, wanted the guy to completely lose it, and he did.

    I love the radio guy. "Black men! Stay away from black women!!!!" Ya'll ought to listen to him on the rest of the video. I've never heard someone in the black community lay into another black in quite that fashion. And she deserved it. "He loses his job and the black bitch goes back home."

    IMO, no one should have to take that kind of verbal abuse. Maybe we need to think about there being a real crime called "verbal assault." The guy's only way out of that mess was to pull over, stop the bus, get out on the sidewalk and call the police. He probably thought he'd lose his job if he did that. Really? This guy was in a no-win scenerio.

    He did the wrong thing. But I think most people can understand how/why he made that decision. This totally reminds me of domestic disputes. A woman intentionally pushes buttons, pushes buttons, follows a guy room to room, in his face -- until he can't take it anymore. The lesson to every​ man ought to be to stay away from women like this. If you're at home? Get your keys and leave. Period. Otherwise, you'll be the one going to jail.
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    Re: Cleveland Bus Driver Suspended After Decking Unruly Female Rider With Brutal Bolo

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    She pushed him when the bus was stopped. I'm sorry, but a person doesn't get pushed, then rise up, walk over and give somebody a roundhouse punch to the face, grab her by the hair and physically throw her off the bus.

    Having said that? She got exactly what she asked for. I don't mean "she asked for it," I mean she wanted a confrontation, wanted the guy to completely lose it, and he did.

    I love the radio guy. "Black men! Stay away from black women!!!!" Ya'll ought to listen to him on the rest of the video. I've never heard someone in the black community lay into another black in quite that fashion. And she deserved it. "He loses his job and the black bitch goes back home."

    IMO, no one should have to take that kind of verbal abuse. Maybe we need to think about there being a real crime called "verbal assault." The guy's only way out of that mess was to pull over, stop the bus, get out on the sidewalk and call the police. He probably thought he'd lose his job if he did that. Really? This guy was in a no-win scenerio.

    He did the wrong thing. But I think most people can understand how/why he made that decision. This totally reminds me of domestic disputes. A woman intentionally pushes buttons, pushes buttons, follows a guy room to room, in his face -- until he can't take it anymore. The lesson to every​ man ought to be to stay away from women like this. If you're at home? Get your keys and leave. Period. Otherwise, you'll be the one going to jail.

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    Re: Cleveland Bus Driver Suspended After Decking Unruly Female Rider With Brutal Bolo

    This Girl reminds me of the Dave Chappelle Skit called "When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong" As much as it pains me to say it the driver was in the wrong. She was asking for it, and got it but that was a hellavu punch. Even after that she was still fighting him so it's doubtful she learned anything. I am afraid it will take something much worse in order for her to learn a lesson, and it will likely be a game ender. All the driver did was get himself in trouble for this piece of trash. Now she is going to start a lawsuit and win, and he is just going to get fired. I bet he felt better after but long term is he is going to be looking for a job. Too bad!

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    Re: Cleveland Bus Driver Suspended After Decking Unruly Female Rider With Brutal Bolo

    WIll you read me say the driver was 100% right and made all the right decisions? hell no! of course not but people that know me know im a big fan of the domino effect end typically domino one is where the focus needs to be. That doesnt make it RIGHT but its still where all the problems stem from.


    Bottom line if you dont want to be assaulted and or killed, dont assault anybody else this is basic common sense and reality that people need to understand ESPECIALLY some women who seem to be totally unaware of this fact.

    now am i saying she should have been killed? of course not but what I am saying you dont get to cry about what happens to you after you hit somebody IMO. Legal, yes you can but thats not life or reality.


    I feel bad for this guy, from personal experience i can relate. Again not saying he was all in the right but its funny how quickly people jump on the lady bandwagon, well i didnt see any lady in that video. And i have to agree with goshin if she was a he this is probably never viral news.


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    Re: Cleveland Bus Driver Suspended After Decking Unruly Female Rider With Brutal Bolo

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    She pushed him when the bus was stopped. I'm sorry, but a person doesn't get pushed, then rise up, walk over and give somebody a roundhouse punch to the face, grab her by the hair and physically throw her off the bus.

    Having said that? She got exactly what she asked for. I don't mean "she asked for it," I mean she wanted a confrontation, wanted the guy to completely lose it, and he did.
    Yep.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I love the radio guy. "Black men! Stay away from black women!!!!" Ya'll ought to listen to him on the rest of the video. I've never heard someone in the black community lay into another black in quite that fashion. And she deserved it. "He loses his job and the black bitch goes back home."

    IMO, no one should have to take that kind of verbal abuse. Maybe we need to think about there being a real crime called "verbal assault." The guy's only way out of that mess was to pull over, stop the bus, get out on the sidewalk and call the police. He probably thought he'd lose his job if he did that. Really? This guy was in a no-win scenerio.

    He did the wrong thing. But I think most people can understand how/why he made that decision. This totally reminds me of domestic disputes. A woman intentionally pushes buttons, pushes buttons, follows a guy room to room, in his face -- until he can't take it anymore. The lesson to every​ man ought to be to stay away from women like this. If you're at home? Get your keys and leave. Period. Otherwise, you'll be the one going to jail.
    Maggie, normally I find you incredibly sane, reasonable, and well worth every syllable, but on this? I think we are not going to see eye to eye.

    This woman was a bully. What stops bullies? a good old fashioned ass-whooping. She got it in spades, and as even you pointed out, it was well deserved.
    As far as the domestic abuse argument, I say drop the faux equality rule of law, let him whoop her ass, and then cart them both off to jail. Enough women lose their pretty looks, and they may think twice about doing stupid crap like what you described above (domestic violence). I say this knowing that my father-in-law, while he was married to my mother-in-law, was beaten upon by her and he ended up going to jail for grabbing her arm and pushing her away all because a bruise formed on her arm.

    Bullies need to have the **** kicked out of them, regardless of gender. No law needed.

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    Re: Cleveland Bus Driver Suspended After Decking Unruly Female Rider With Brutal Bolo

    Quote Originally Posted by Marconi View Post
    Here's a second video which shows how long the woman was harrassing the driver before he assaulted her.

    The amazing thing is that people on the bus just watched and filmed it. The woman was putting their lives in danger as the man was driving under duress. Even the guy in high visibility jacket did nothing.

    However, it's still very uncomfortable viewing when a woman (or anyone) gets a full force punch.


    The radio guy called it! I suggest women think about what they expect when they step into a situation where they intend to match strength and speed with a man, like this woman did. She harrassed him until he went passed his limit. The reaction of some women bears out as the radio guy said, you'll jump in there to defend the woman, no matter what. The bus driver called it, he knew when she step out of her domain as a woman and stepped into his domain. Most men on here know exactl what I'm talking about. You know when a woman has gone over the line, or you would recognize it. It takes a lot for woman to get to that point to. Woman hits you like she wants to fight you, then she's stepped out of her domain and stepped into yours, just like the radio guy called it. That woman got what she deserved, and I'm surprised he didn't throw her ass out of the bus door. She was stupid to get back up again and try to continue, because he had decided that she was still acting like a man. I don't say this lightly because most men will allow a woman to hit them without doing anything, depending on the nature of the punch.

    Bottomline, you think you're big enough and bad enough to stand toe to toe with a man, then you go right ahead at your own risk. Don't expect to be treated like a woman, the way most men are brought up. I agree with Goshin on this. This bitch was stupid doing what she did. Unfortunately the bus company has no choice, because of their own rules, civil law and politics. Frankly I think that bus driver was still restraining himself even after he started punching her, because if he had gone all out she would have been bleeding all over that bus and certianly wouldn't have continued running her mouth.
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    Re: Cleveland Bus Driver Suspended After Decking Unruly Female Rider With Brutal Bolo

    an example of the double standard. she was clearly a hostile, violent lady, who needed to be arrested. instead, this poor guy takes the fall for her violent ignorance. good game, sexism, man 0, woman 1.

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