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Romney Supporter Wears 'Put The White Back In The White House' T-Shirt At Ohio Campai

MaggieD said:
Blueberry Hill, if ya' don't mind. I don't know about a guy in a cowboy hat; but I sure don't automatically assume that what I read is correct. And that how something is interpreted by the media is correct. There's plenty of precedent for disrupters being recruited to go to opponents' rallies. The fact that you don't believe it doesn't mean it isn't true.
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So if you never believe a picture or what you read how do you receive information?
 
Arcana XV said:
It's important to point these sort of people out and publicly shame them each and every time. Asshole is too good a term to describe people like this. What comes out of the orifice, however, is a lot more fitting.
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The thing about attempting to shame people like that is that if it were POSSIBLE to shame them then they wouldn't wear something like that to BEGIN with. IF a person wants to be a rascist that is their right...as long as it doesn't infringe on anyone elses rights. What we CAN do is those of us who have our own business is refuse to allow them to patronize our business and if you DON'T own a business then boycott THEIR business or place of employment. Short of that there isn't much we can LEGALLY do. Which is a shame.
 
Maybe my friends from that bar in Kenya (The White House) paid him to wear it. I miss them too.
 
JohnWOlin said:
So if you never believe a picture or what you read how do you receive information?
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That really isn't what I said. But now that you mention it, how do people sort out truth from fiction? When I first saw that photo, I thought, "Oh, well, a jerk at a Romney rally, big deal." Then I thought, "I wonder if it was even a Romney supporter? I don't care either way because whether it was or whether it wasn't doesn't make any difference to me. He's one guy.

But if you believe photographs you see on the internet . . . if you believe newsreels you see of events . . . without question, you're not thinking, in my opinion. We can soooo easily be manipulated by the media as to make it scarey. We've all seen the altered videos of Bush and others making speeches they never made. Photoshopped pictures that lie.

I remember seeing a documentary about media manipulation some time ago. One of the methods that impressed me was how they can manipulate a crowd scene to give the impression there are hundreds of demonstrators when there are only a few dozen. All with camera angles and close-cropped shots. I mean I saw it with my own eyes. It was, pardon the pun, eye-opening. Ha!

I'm pretty skeptical -- especially when it comes to politics. I don't think of it as a failing, I think of it as a strength. I don't believe any of 'em.
 
nota bene said:
I'd like to know who this citizen is and who made the t-shirt.
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If he's a white supremacist, it doesn't really matter if he goes by Billy Bob, Cooter or Jimmy Ray. Stormfront denizens will surely be able to help you with some of that t-shirt research, tho.

Now, if he was paid to put on that t-shirt and go strut his stuff at Romney rallies that's a whole other debate on a whole other brand of repulsive ideas. At this point, I'm taking it at face value and choose to focus on condemning the racist message.
 
I disagree with the sentiment expressed on the shirt but I find it interesting that this generates outrage but thousands upon thousands of people voting for Obama just because he's black....not so much.
 
MaggieD said:
That really isn't what I said. But now that you mention it, how do people sort out truth from fiction? When I first saw that photo, I thought, "Oh, well, a jerk at a Romney rally, big deal." Then I thought, "I wonder if it was even a Romney supporter? I don't care either way because whether it was or whether it wasn't doesn't make any difference to me. He's one guy.

But if you believe photographs you see on the internet . . . if you believe newsreels you see of events . . . without question, you're not thinking, in my opinion. We can soooo easily be manipulated by the media as to make it scarey. We've all seen the altered videos of Bush and others making speeches they never made. Photoshopped pictures that lie.

I remember seeing a documentary about media manipulation some time ago. One of the methods that impressed me was how they can manipulate a crowd scene to give the impression there are hundreds of demonstrators when there are only a few dozen. All with camera angles and close-cropped shots. I mean I saw it with my own eyes. It was, pardon the pun, eye-opening. Ha!

I'm pretty skeptical -- especially when it comes to politics. I don't think of it as a failing, I think of it as a strength. I don't believe any of 'em.
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I understand what you are saying, but what about Obama phone? What are your thoughts on that then? What about the claim that Obama is the food stamp president?
 
Arcana XV said:
If he's a white supremacist, it doesn't really matter if he goes by Billy Bob, Cooter or Jimmy Ray. Stormfront denizens will surely be able to help you with some of that t-shirt research, tho.

Now, if he was paid to put on that t-shirt and go strut his stuff at Romney rallies that's a whole other debate on a whole other brand of repulsive ideas. At this point, I'm taking it at face value and choose to focus on condemning the racist message.
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I'm not taking this at face-value; I'm too skeptical about potential "dirty tricks." I'm continuing to Google but haven't found any info yet under "manufacturer" or "maker" or anything else. Assume as you please that a Stormfronter mentality is behind this. And maybe it is.

But maybe it's not. Who took the pic? Did anybody talk to the t-shirt wearer? Have any of those attending the rally weighed in yet? Was there more than one person wearing the shirt? I'm going to wait on more facts.
 
WcBeasley said:
The thing about attempting to shame people like that is that if it were POSSIBLE to shame them then they wouldn't wear something like that to BEGIN with. IF a person wants to be a rascist that is their right...as long as it doesn't infringe on anyone elses rights. What we CAN do is those of us who have our own business is refuse to allow them to patronize our business and if you DON'T own a business then boycott THEIR business or place of employment. Short of that there isn't much we can LEGALLY do. Which is a shame.
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Racism is not illegal, nor do I think it should be, so I'm not too bothered by the fact nothing can legally be done. I do agree with your boycott and barring suggestions, as that is one way to publicly condemn and shame the ideology and its supporters. It may not be possible to change their minds about race, but that shouldn't deter anyone from speaking out against what these people stand for.
 
JohnWOlin said:
I understand what you are saying, but what about Obama phone? What are your thoughts on that then? What about the claim that Obama is the food stamp president?
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The Obamaphone? I assume you're talking about that lady they interviewed saying Obama gave everyone a phone? Well -- :rofl -- I don't much like the program, but it isn't Obama's program. It was passed by Congress 15 years ago or more. And it's income targeted, not race targeted. That, to me, simply gave the impression that the lady was an idiot, frankly.

Calling Obama the food stamp president is just one of those campaign sound bytes that makes one stop and think -- but then, in my opinion, some people might actually want to thank him. I personally didn't like that the program was advertising for "noncustomers," but no one can deny that people were/are in need. The fact that food stamp usage went up by a huge percentage under his presidency is what leads to that call, of course. But the discerning person needs to ask: "Why?"

I hope that answers your question.
 
Arcana XV said:
Racism is not illegal, nor do I think it should be, so I'm not too bothered by the fact nothing can legally be done. I do agree with your boycott and barring suggestions, as that is one way to publicly condemn and shame the ideology and its supporters. It may not be possible to change their minds about race, but that shouldn't deter anyone from speaking out against what these people stand for.
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While I abhor rascism and bigotry, I agree I don't think it should be legislated. By doing THAT where would it stop? Boycotts, Barring INDIVIDUALS from an establishment (which IS legal) and events and snubbing known rascists untill their mindset changes is the only way to stop hatred.
 
nota bene said:
I'm not taking this at face-value; I'm too skeptical about potential "dirty tricks." I'm continuing to Google but haven't found any info yet under "manufacturer" or "maker" or anything else. Assume as you please that a Stormfronter mentality is behind this. And maybe it is.

But maybe it's not. Who took the pic? Did anybody talk to the t-shirt wearer? Have any of those attending the rally weighed in yet? Was there more than one person wearing the shirt? I'm going to wait on more facts.
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There are many places online where you can buy t-shirts with a customized slogan on it. You can have them print anything you want on it. Maybe this guy was inspired by this other guy:

Palmer Sign Sparks Controversy - Western Massachusetts Breaking News and First Warning Weather with WGGB.com ABC 40

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Lutherf said:
I disagree with the sentiment expressed on the shirt but I find it interesting that this generates outrage but thousands upon thousands of people voting for Obama just because he's black....not so much.
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So we shouldn't be outraged? It should bother ALL people regardless of their political standing or party. It's called Human decency, respect for our fellow Human beings. Rascism is WRONG no matter who it's directed at.
 
MaggieD said:
The Obamaphone? I assume you're talking about that lady they interviewed saying Obama gave everyone a phone? Well -- :rofl -- I don't much like the program, but it isn't Obama's program. It was passed by Congress 15 years ago or more. And it's income targeted, not race targeted. That, to me, simply gave the impression that the lady was an idiot, frankly.

Calling Obama the food stamp president is just one of those campaign sound bytes that makes one stop and think -- but then, in my opinion, some people might actually want to thank him. I personally didn't like that the program was advertising for "noncustomers," but no one can deny that people were/are in need. The fact that food stamp usage went up by a huge percentage under his presidency is what leads to that call, of course. But the discerning person needs to ask: "Why?"

I hope that answers your question.
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Well played. The food stamp usage has indeed gone up however much of the reason for it happened months before Obama took office. I would like the issue of entitlements and military to be sternly addressed in Obamas second term. With entitlements while the vast majority truly need the system and most use it for short term I personally know many that game the system and with that I understand conservatives complaints. There are twins at my work live in the same house as their mother and father each make a bit less than me at $13 an hour and their father works first shift making $13 as well. Their mother is a waitress. In total the household probably makes around $100k before taxes. They only use her mothers income to get government help. I have personally seen these abuses at least a dozen times. That kind of stuff needs to stop because it gives the GOP a reason to hurt those that need it.
 
Thrilla said:
yes, yes they are.
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I am a 2nd Gen American, Whose family Came from Ireland during the 40's. I can still remember growing up seeing signs in windows of Barbershops and certain restaraunts that said 'No Irish Allowed" here in the U.S. So Bigotry and rascism touch on a sore spot with me. In ANY form.
 
WcBeasley said:
I am a 2nd Gen American, Whose family Came from Ireland during the 40's. I can still remember growing up seeing signs in windows of Barbershops and certain restaraunts that said 'No Irish Allowed" here in the U.S. So Bigotry and rascism touch on a sore spot with me. In ANY form.
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cool, my grandmother was from Killarney.. my Grandfather was from Wiesbaden ( back when it was part of Prussia)
my Mother was from Dublin, my pops was from Detroit.
not sure if i'm a Kraut Mick, or a Mick Kraut. :lol:
I was born in the early 50's... we all kinda grew up with racism as the norm ( sort of)
 
Thrilla said:
cool, my grandmother was from Killarney.. my Grandfather was from Wiesbaden ( back when it was part of Prussia)
my Mother was from Dublin, my pops was from Detroit.
not sure if i'm a Kraut Mick, or a Mick Kraut. :lol:
I was born in the early 50's... we all kinda grew up with racism as the norm ( sort of)
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My family is all from Bantry in Southern Cork and Yes I know the feeling of growing up with rascism as the 'norm'. Didn't agree with it THEN and certainly don't now. Why politicians are attempting to take us back to the 20's is beyond me.
 
For those of us who do not get out much, Is Obama somewhat black? Is he in the White House (when he is not golfing, partying, making trips to Vegas, raising money and campaigning)?
Is Romney mostly white?

If you vote for Obama aren't you putting the black in the White House?
If you (sensibly) vote for Romney aren't you putting the white in the White House?

What happened in Libya is far more interesting that discussing the Obama plants in the crowd.
 
JohnWOlin said:
Race certainly plays a big part. KY for example is a heavily democratic state where the nominee that won has always won in KY since FDR to my knowledge. In 2008 that record was broken.
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thank you for pointing out the dixiecrats never died during the southern strategy,and remain a part of the current democrat platform(i believe around 10%)

not the only state with the good ole boys democrats,in texas there are quite a few democrat loyalists,who are also the most conservative people you will ever meet(i dont mean austin democrats i mean backwoods democrats)
 
I often Listen to black radio stations in town. Some of the crap Obama supporters spew is worse. During the Bush campaign advertisements against Bush claimed that a "vote for Bush is a vote for another black man being dragged to his death" (Bush signed death warrants on two of the three men who murdered James Byrd) or "A Vote for Bush is a vote for another black church burned down"
 
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