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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Uhhh...I did that. I did that the last time you asked.
    Sorry, I found it.

    'What is the does bullying cover that harassment and stalking doesn't?'

    What is the does?

    Okay.

    I assume you meant 'What does....'

    I believe that bullying is not illegal, whereas harassment and stalking are.


    Now my question;

    What if a father (who is a cop) rapes his 8 year old child every day for 4 years. Finally, the child takes her own life because she cannot see any other way to stop him from raping her.

    Now is he morally responsible at all for her suicide?

    Yes or no?

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Well, true. Every crime is also a tort -- but what parent wants money as opposed to a prison sentence when some evil adult has driven their kid into the ground?
    i agree with you completely. I was just trying to express that a bully CAN legally be held responsible for a suicide without being labled a "murderer"........... from a civil-law perspective that is.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    A bully is not responsible for a suicide. That would be murder. Since we're calling the the person a "bully" and not a "murderer", this means even you already agree that a bully is not responsible for a suicide.
    Do I think the "bully" should be considered a "murderer"? No. Do I think the bully deserves some punishment yes. Granted, one must prove that the bully's actions were the cause of one's suicide.

    But, when someone is able to demean someone, and emotionally or physically degrade someone to the point that they would choose suicide over life, I believe the person who does the bullying is at some fault.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    A bully is not responsible for a suicide. That would be murder. Since we're calling the the person a "bully" and not a "murderer", this means even you already agree that a bully is not responsible for a suicide.
    Correct. It was her choice

    Btw the more, I read about her, the more she's turning out to be a skank

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Btw the more, I read about her, the more she's turning out to be a skank
    I heard you were accused of contributing "substance" to a debate once? I must have heard wrong.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    i agree with you completely. I was just trying to express that a bully CAN legally be held responsible for a suicide without being labled a "murderer" from a civil-law perspective.
    Almost all the time, this is true. When I was in law school, 100 years ago, some states would not allow an intentional infliction of emotional distress case to proceed without some offensive physical contact between the parties -- there might could still be one or two states that still bar such suits.

    But as they say, the law expands to meet the development of our sense of justice and making the evil adult live under a bridge the rest of their lives for the intentional, life-threatening campaign of terror they waged against a child that led to that child's death is certainly better than no justice at all.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Correct. It was her choice

    Btw the more, I read about her, the more she's turning out to be a skank
    It was not a choice, as the child saw no alternative.

    And calling this child a "skank" is so offensive to common human decency as to make me never want to read another word you write.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Sorry, I found it.

    'What is the does bullying cover that harassment and stalking doesn't?'

    What is the does?

    Okay.

    I assume you meant 'What does....'

    I believe that bullying is not illegal, whereas harassment and stalking are.
    But..what's the difference. You didn't answer the question at all! What would bullying cover that those other definitions wouldn't?

    My answer to your question is a simple no; no need to have any dramatic tension over it. I hope you still answer mine, though: what would an anti-bullying law cover that isn't already covered?
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
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    Fluffy we got problem with the statistics here, the CDC which are the only statistics I that consider reliable from your selection there, is calling their child sucide rate from the ages 10-24. I am having a hard time trying to find the break down of these statistics. I can say with certainty from what little I have read that a majority of your 4400 are going to be male from 19-22. So until we can get a breakdown on that statistic from reliable source CDC is fine or a scientific journel, I am gona have to question the validity of that number. Further any surveys of high school students is most likely to be crap. Because I had to do them when I was in high school and I lied my ass off. As did all my friends. We made it a game to screw with the researchers. We got pretty darn sophisticated about it too. I ought to tell you about my little money counterfitting and laundering sceme I and couple of buddies had. ( We were counterfiting a teachers script. I'll post a thread later.)
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    But..what's the difference. You didn't answer the question at all! What would bullying cover that those other definitions wouldn't?

    My answer to your question is a simple no; no need to have any dramatic tension over it. I hope you still answer mine, though: what would an anti-bullying law cover that isn't already covered?
    Are you serious?

    I would have to know every single definition of all three words and then be able to compare them all and find the discrepancies.

    I answered your (badly phrased) question.

    You don't like the answer - tough.


    As for your answer...noted.

    You are exactly as I thought you are.

    But at least you answered it - more then some others were prepared to do.

    But as Kirk once said 'I...have had enough of...you.' (not that I want to kick you into a sea of lava, btw).


    Have a nice life.
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