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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    She wasn't 12 when she took her life was she?
    She was 15. She was 12 when she posted her pic and first became a target of cyber predation.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    She was 15. She was 12 when she posted her pic and first became a target of cyber predation.
    Apparently she did a lot more than just post a pic.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Apparently she did a lot more than just post a pic.
    I'm just going on the facts which have been presented in the media. According to every account I've read.....apparently she didn't "do a lot more."
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Well then no one should take any responsibility for the actions of children..........you've got it! Great idea! Because we all know that 12-yr-olds are always perfectly capable of rationalizing any situation and will generally make perfectly good choices which are non-destructive to others or themselves. So, good then, let's just leave children to their own whims and take zero responsibility for how they all turn out. Sounds like a recipe for success..........it's all settled now! Thanks for the positive input.
    How far do you go with your definition of "child".

    None of the things listed in her video there struck me as "Wow this girl is a child." She seemed mature enough to be able to take responsibility for her own actions.... I mean, she was able to tell us all her medical diagnosis, she was able to articulate her feelings, she made a decision to have sex with a guy based upon her feelings and was mature enough to be capable of realizing that she made a mistake, she was capable of understanding that she put herself in this situation through her own actions. She was mature enough to handle moving several times in order to avoid the conflict.

    Seems to me that she knew was cognizant of the full picture.

    Enough, if I may say so, to understand the seriousness of the decision to kill herself.


    So quit acting like she was ****ing 7 years old and didn't know ****.



    Oh yeah, and she was 15... not 12. Old enough to drive in many places.......Old enough to be responsible.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Why are you guys persisting to think this is about bullying?

    This girl was stalked and harassed- legally- until she decided to commit suicide. It's on the perpetrators for the stalking and harassing (not bullying, which is just dumb to consider a crime), and it's on the girl for killing herself.

    Not that hard.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    I can see where people do not like the actions of the person this thread is about. However, I do not believe that we should be obsessed with complaining about a person's character when the person is dead.
    I plead the current Romney pro-life idea as my beliefs on the other issue--but I do believe then if you respect life--you respect all life even though that life may been lived wrong as in the case of this person.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aimee30 View Post
    The one guy is making fun of a young person who killed herself. He should stop posting it if he has true respect for all life.
    Who's that?

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    How far do you go with your definition of "child".

    None of the things listed in her video there struck me as "Wow this girl is a child." She seemed mature enough to be able to take responsibility for her own actions.... I mean, she was able to tell us all her medical diagnosis, she was able to articulate her feelings, she made a decision to have sex with a guy based upon her feelings and was mature enough to be capable of realizing that she made a mistake, she was capable of understanding that she put herself in this situation through her own actions. She was mature enough to handle moving several times in order to avoid the conflict.

    Seems to me that she knew was cognizant of the full picture.

    Enough, if I may say so, to understand the seriousness of the decision to kill herself.


    So quit acting like she was ****ing 7 years old and didn't know ****.



    Oh yeah, and she was 15... not 12. Old enough to drive in many places.......Old enough to be responsible.
    So you'd treat your 15 year-old daughter like an adult, allow her to be completely responsible for all of her own actions and take zero responsibility for her as a parent? Hmmmm......okay. This speaks volumes regarding why our families have deteriorated to the point at which they have in this country IMHO.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Why are you guys persisting to think this is about bullying?

    This girl was stalked and harassed- legally- until she decided to commit suicide. It's on the perpetrators for the stalking and harassing (not bullying, which is just dumb to consider a crime), and it's on the girl for killing herself.

    Not that hard.
    So it's "legal" to circulate nude pics of an underage girl all over the interwebz? I take it this is not a prosecutable offense? Before you answer, I do realize that she did made the mistake of posting her own pic......but you DO realize that she posted it on a image blog that was for "minors only" and that her original web stalker created a fraudulent account to gain access to the site because he was "over age"..........this according to media reports that I have read, of course.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    So it's "legal" to circulate nude pics of an underage girl all over the interwebz?
    Uhhh...no?

    I take it this is not a prosecutable offense?
    Why do you take it that way? You don't think child pornography is against the law?

    Before you answer, I do realize that she did made the mistake of posting her own pic......but you DO realize that she posted it on a image blog that was for "minors only" and that her original web stalker created a fraudulent account to gain access to the site because he was "over age"..........this according to media reports that I have read, of course.
    So? I don't think you understand what I mean by legally. I mean, by legal definition, she was stalked and harassed.

    But that's not bullying, just like murder isn't assault.
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