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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Is possible that some blame is to be put on the person who bullies someone to the point of suicide?
    Ummm...maybe?

    I guess some blame can go anywhere. If my wife takes a shower and then makes the coffee, instead of making the coffee and then taking a shower, and I leave a little bit later than I would have otherwise, and a truck runs a red light and hits me, does she share some of the blame for the accident? I wouldn't have been there then otherwise, right?
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Stop bullying me.
    Lol...


    Have a nice day.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Well, there is one option. First instead of using the word "Bullying" which is so polarizing and subjective, find a better term/phrase to describe it and set forth the types of specific acts which would constitute it, and then plea to the Court when the case comes up that they apply the porn "we know it when we see it" test. It isn't like most disorderly conduct/breach of the peace statutes that most every place in America have are particularly well-defined.
    I call it negligent homicide: deliberately creating an unreasonable risk of death to a child.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    You have to go after specific acts with the intent of causing harm and then use the words to show the intent to do harm. You cannot go after words alone and survive a free speech challenge. It is not rocket science.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Lol...


    Have a nice day.
    It's sad that you're unable to see the irony. What defines bullying? If someone thinks they're being bullied, are they?

    Those- among many others- are the questions that need to be addressed before getting up in arms about 'anti-bullying'. Think, guys, as opposed to just feeling. You're supposed to be adults, right?
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I call it negligent homicide: deliberately creating an unreasonable risk of death to a child.
    I think you'd have better luck with a stalking/harassment angle than a homicide angle but you have to not make the speech part of it, just the pattern of conduct.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Child-on-child bullying is, IMO, somewhat different. I'd need quite a few facts before I'd be willing to convict a child for homicide for the death of another child.

    But an adult? One who went on the net looking for a child to bully to death?

    I would have no lost sleep finding that person guilty of some level of homicide, and IMO, our kids will be safer when we start enabling our prosecutors to put the Lori Drews of this country behind bars where they belong.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I think you'd have better luck with a stalking/harassment angle than a homicide angle but you have to not make the speech part of it, just the pattern of conduct.
    I'd be open to any reasonable suggestion, because as of today, any adult who has an axe to grind with you can kill your child for revenge and we cannot do a damned thing, legally, if he kills using the net.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I'd be open to any reasonable suggestion, because as of today, any adult who has an axe to grind with you can kill your child for revenge and we cannot do a damned thing, legally, if he kills using the net.


    What in the ****? Sure, he can kill them....if he can convince them to kill themselves. I guess anyone can kill someone else if they can do that, really.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I'd be open to any reasonable suggestion, because as of today, any adult who has an axe to grind with you can kill your child for revenge and we cannot do a damned thing, legally, if he kills using the net.
    Perhaps start with an existing statute and just make it a felony: For instance, here is Florida's

    Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

    (d) “Cyberstalk” means to engage in a course of conduct to communicate, or to cause to be communicated, words, images, or language by or through the use of electronic mail or electronic communication, directed at a specific person, causing substantial emotional distress to that person and serving no legitimate purpose.
    (2) A person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of stalking, a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
    (3) A person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person and makes a credible threat to that person commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

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