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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I refuse to believe you are really that daft. I'm sorry, but it's obvious you and others are saying this crap to piss people off and nothing more. Have fun with that.
    Stop bullying me

    (See, I'm not really complaining about bullying, because I don't care, but I'm pointing out to you what the problem in your argumentation is)
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Did you watch the video and see what those people did to her? They didn't just "say" things that she didn't like. Way to downplay it, though. Also, kudos for holding a 16 year old girl to the same standards as an adult. Teenagers aren't fully developed yet. That, and not everyone has the same level of mental stability. Some people are fragile. **** them, though, right? They need to ****ing grow a pair and man up. They need to be tough like you.
    Good points, but you are wasting your time.

    People like NewWorldOrder and Excon and some others on here think they have seen it all when clearly they have not a clue. They simply do not have the life experiences and/or the intellectual/emotional capacity to understand what this teenaged girl probably felt when she took her life.

    To you and I it seems obvious what she was probably going through.

    But to them?

    It is TOTALLY over their heads.

    They only see black and white...they (apparently) cannot see the grey.


    I am of course assuming they are/were not bullies themselves and are not just trying to put the consequences of their actions in a less negative light.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Weak, dude. That being said by a 23 year vet myself.

    She was 12 when this thing kicked off, and 16 when she killed herself. Regardless, I know you've seen a range of defense mechanisms in people you've served with. Some handle things better than others. I also know that we don't allow "bullyiing" in the military. If we don't allow it there, why is it ok that it happens in middle school?
    Because it's just normal? Kids are gonna pick on kids. No one likes bullying, but how are you gonna stop it? There's already anti-stalking laws in place, ya know...

    The girl is to blame for her death. I'm sorry, but she is. She did it.

    Ignore away if that bothers you.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Stop bullying me

    (See, I'm not really complaining about bullying, because I don't care, but I'm pointing out to you what the problem in your argumentation is)
    So much for that job as a PTSD counsellor.


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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    You are certainly not alone in your concern, Pirate. I don't want crappy laws, either. I disagree that it is hopeless that we can criminalize only the behavior we abhore and leave all other speech legal, but I do not deny that if it can be done, it'll be a genius-level accomplishment.
    Well, there is one option. First instead of using the word "Bullying" which is so polarizing and subjective, find a better term/phrase to describe it and set forth the types of specific acts which would constitute it, and then plea to the Court when the case comes up that they apply the porn "we know it when we see it" test. It isn't like most disorderly conduct/breach of the peace statutes that most every place in America have are particularly well-defined.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Good points, but you are wasting your time.

    People like NewWorldOrder and Excon and some others on here think they have seen it all when clearly they have not a clue. They simply do not have the life experiences and/or the intellectual/emotional capacity to understand what this teenaged girl probably felt when she took her life.

    To you and I it seems obvious what she was probably going through.

    But to them?

    It is TOTALLY over their heads.

    They only see black and white...they (apparently) cannot see the grey.


    I am of course assuming they are/were not bullies themselves and are not just trying to put the consequences of their actions in a less negative light.
    I agree with you, but I honestly don't even think they actually believe their own nonsense. They are simply bored and have absolutely nothing better to do with their time than to bait people into nonsensical arguments.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Because it's just normal? Kids are gonna pick on kids. No one likes bullying, but how are you gonna stop it? There's already anti-stalking laws in place, ya know...

    The girl is to blame for her death. I'm sorry, but she is. She did it.

    Ignore away if that bothers you.
    There's no limit to "normal bullying" in your mind? When does it cross the line into assault?

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Because it's just normal? Kids are gonna pick on kids. No one likes bullying, but how are you gonna stop it? There's already anti-stalking laws in place, ya know...

    The girl is to blame for her death. I'm sorry, but she is. She did it.

    Ignore away if that bothers you.
    Is possible that some blame is to be put on the person who bullies someone to the point of suicide?

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Good points, but you are wasting your time.

    People like NewWorldOrder and Excon and some others on here think they have seen it all when clearly they have not a clue. They simply do not have the life experiences and/or the intellectual/emotional capacity to understand what this teenaged girl probably felt when she took her life.

    To you and I it seems obvious what she was probably going through.

    But to them?

    It is TOTALLY over their heads.

    They only see black and white...they (apparently) cannot see the grey.


    I am of course assuming they are/were not bullies themselves and are not just trying to put the consequences of their actions in a less negative light.
    Stop bullying me.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I agree with you, but I honestly don't even think they actually believe their own nonsense. They are simply bored and have absolutely nothing better to do with their time than to bait people into nonsensical arguments.
    You maybe right.

    Or maybe you are giving them too much credit.

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