The best antidote to juvenile bullying is strong parental support and by support I mean actually getting involved with your kids. Helping them run away from adversity and supporting the "victim" mentality isn't help. It strikes me that most of the moving between schools was done in an attempt to run away from the issue at hand rather than to address that issue and it's little wonder that when the child found that running away wasn't going to work and that the issue would not be directly addressed she made a drastic decision.
This is a very tragic video and such a lose.
I can empathcize with it and I would not dare show it to my wife. She faced scares from when she posted some pixs of herself on a forum when 16. Not nude. There are many videos of her otherwise from athletic competitions others had made - and somehow her pictures were linked to those videos - thus it known who she was. And where. But I won't go into that.
People, particularly young, need to be STRONGLY educated about the DANGERS of the Internet, PARTICULARLY photos and personal information. I've started a thread way back of the dangers of hidden video cameras too. We had a different kind of hidden video camera recording scare ourselves, but learned and got ahead of it. There are literally porn sites urging teens and men to take secret videos of sex with girls/women and send them to the website - including particularly if they plan on breaking with her and to do so as a punishment and weapon. It is impossible to get those offline - though I think law should change in that regards.
Such is why I don't post pictures and in part why I draw the line on how much I get into some topics that in some way give TMI about myself/us or about our life, life style etc. There are a lot of dangerous, wacko people. That is also just a reality.
This has become SO real and common, I think that at a very young age ALL students should be required to attend a school course on personal safety, including Internet safety. This video should be shown in such classes. And a hundred more examples. And how to avoid those dangers.
Sometimes on the forum I've been criticized for the "strict" monitoring, inquiring and control of my teenage daughter. I can not count how often I or my wife (we are adoptive parents of her) warned her about the Internet and particularly facebook. Yes, we checked on it regularly. Yes, we wanted to know who, what and where. Always. About everyone, all time, and everywhere. But she was so used to that she not only was not offended, but almost disappointed if we missed a beat on our involvement in her life having already become so accustomed. No matter what, she always knew someone - us - totally cared about her and her life. She always had some to praise her successes and someone to boast to who truly cared. She knew there was someone to talk through problems, challenges and issues.
Its a very sad story. I'm certain her parents are ripping their hearts out in what could they have done?
Last edited by joko104; 10-12-12 at 01:40 PM.
Good for you.
Whether and who you have or haven't any sympathy for is your concern,not mine.
All I did was point out that there are people out there whose actions and words apparently influenced her decision to take her own life.
If you chose not to hold them partially responsible ,that of course is your right.
I choose to do otherwise.
Like I said on a previous post,I think what this child need was help and understanding during her life,not conde,nation after her death.
But hey,that's just my opinion.
Last edited by Verthaine; 10-12-12 at 01:42 PM.
Her parents failed her. She killed herself. It's a tragedy, and I don't "blame" her.
Thank you, Quazi!
Perhaps there should be an age limit for posting pics to the web and by phone (21). It would solve a good deal of the problems. Or, require a signoff from a parent or guardian in order for underage to post pics. Like moderated newsgroups.
The teachers here did what they did because they knew and have known for many years that NOTHING would happen to them and their bosses had thier backs all the way up. (as i said).
In other places such as Michigan, their actions would have resulted in at least the teachers and possibly others getting fired or arrested.
It is not a function of the schools. Private schools have the same issues in some places. It is a matter of the mindset of the public who allows these things to happen and continually elects people who think this type behavior is permissable.
change the system to support childrens rights to not being harrassed and you change the schools mindset.
"Those who do not learn from history and condemned to relive it".
"There are those who will debate the necessity of wilderness, I will not, either you know it in your bones or you are very very old". Aldo Leopold - Sand County Almanac
That you have no sympathy for the teen in that video is, candidly, truly disgusting to me.
That she did not name anyone but herself makes it clear her intentions were not to bully anyone at all. It shows a very kind, gentle teenage girl. Not for a second do I think her goal was to hurt anyone. She ended her life to end the emotional pain she saw no way to end or leave behind - stating how she had pro-actively tried to again and again, no other reason.
Here is why I see your message you wrote from your personal life views is disgusting and truly sick in my hard opinion of it...
Your somehow figuring how to try to use her so-sad death to make some extreme summary partisan hack statement in your conclusion is SO bizarre that - well, I best not write it out for the rules.
Last edited by joko104; 10-12-12 at 01:52 PM.