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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    I wonder at what age does a child consider suicide.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Dear, we are not dealing in hypotheticals here, so thank you for answering your own question.
    There are no similarities with your hypothetical and this case.
    There are parallels, but I realize that if you have not studied on this, you might not know that.

    Clearly, the ignorance is in what you are saying as underlined.
    If I arm you, then remote-control your body to cause you to shoot yourself in the head, were you murdered by me? Of course.

    I'm saying the mind control of a child on the net is sometimes this powerful.


    That isn't what happened in this case. So you are engaged in hyperbole.
    She took her life because she was unstable.

    Nor does this does not need to be made into criminal law. That is ridiculous.

    And the proposed law that you later sighted, I hope fails miserably. It is not needed.
    R'ly? And you have which facts to back up your claim?

    Because I can sure back up mine. BTW, is there a reason you want adults to be free to bully children over the net?


    Just as in this case, the lady is not responsible for the other unstable person's death. Nor should she be.

    All that is, is the current desire to blame others, "someone else is to blame", attitude.
    Sorry, that doesn't fly.
    Are you referring to Lori Drew? If so, a jury of her peers, a federal prosecutor, a US congressman and a few other million people disagree with you about her guilt for the death of Megan Meier.

    There are already laws on the books to take care of the harassment and the assault in this case.
    No, there are not. Existing laws about internet conduct deal mainly with fraud.

    But the only person in this case who is responsible for her death is her. No one else.
    I hope you never have to know just how wrong you are.

    Your hypothetical has no bearing on this case.
    And we should really stick with reality.
    Otherwise we will start seeing hypotheticals about teens being enticed into rape by the intoxicating effects of the way a girl dresses.
    No face to face interaction has the impact on a child that internet interaction has.

    And I am sure you will see that just as absurd as I see this current effort to shift responsibility onto others, when clearly she is the only one responsible, just as the teens in the above hyp would be.
    Shift responsibility? Were you free to murder children before the net was invented? Should a new murder weapon give you any more right to commit crimes with immunity?

    Wrong!
    The mere fact that you are ignorant does not alter the reality that you are.

    No you couldn't. You are more than welcome to try, but you will not succeed in what you intend.
    Puppy love is as intoxicating if not more so, yet it does not remove ones responsibility for there actions.

    She is still responsible for cutting herself, for drinking bleach, for taking drugs on top of the internet even, and for taking her own life.
    No one else.
    Not even the interwebs.
    I'm 100% confident that anyone who is not willfully ignorant can learn. Only you know whether or not this describes you.

    Sorry dear. There is nothing to admit to here other than that she is responsible for her own actions.
    And I have already admitted that. Numerous times even.
    You do seem to hate kids, and to be proud of that hatred.

    She is responsible for her own action. No one else.
    Other than those trying to place blame where it does not belong, no none needs any motivation to state the truth.
    This seems a tad repetitive; is there a reason you are so adamant in defense of those who murder children?

    There is not much more to know that would change her responsibility for taking her life.
    She is solely responsible.
    There's a great deal more to know. I'm beginning to suspect you cannot or will not learn, but that'd be a personal problem of yours.

    You quote me and make such a comment when the other was the initiator and I the responder.
    Strange to say the least.
    But it clearly shows your bias.
    This entire reply is a trip.




    And so it must be.
    I guess I am also done trying to reach you.
    She is responsible for her her actions. No one else.
    Nothing you have said changes that.
    Nor could it.
    To bad you can't see that.
    Again, you seem oddly defensive of adults who harm kids.

    That was already addressed in an affirmative w/caveats.
    Huh? After all this, you agree that internet bullying should be a crime when it results in a child's death?
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    I wonder at what age does a child consider suicide.
    I'm certainly no expert, but I would guess that younger children have a much higher suicide rate now than they did 20 years ago, and that the difference is almost entirely due to the net.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I'm certainly no expert, but I would guess that younger children have a much higher suicide rate now than they did 20 years ago, and that the difference is almost entirely due to the net.
    I mean I don't think many people under 15 really knows what it means to commit suicide. I certainly had never thought about it until I was about 17.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Now she was brainwashed somehow? When did that happen in the story? Though yes, your friends and classmates might know if you put your boobs on the Internet and people are all talking about it and sharing the pictures. Sometimes you do stupid ignorant things and you pay for them in this life and the Internet doesn't change that much. It just speeds up the delivery and makes it harder to control the damage.
    Ever sit a child in front of the television to get a moment's peace, Henrin?

    Why does this work on virtually all kids? Because the tv mesmerizes them. Now, imagine if they could talk with the people on tv, so could all their friends, and that the tv followed them everywhere they went.

    Imagine too, that the people on the tv were pedophiles with worldclass child manipulation skills.

    This analogy doesn't entirely explain why the internet has been a game-changer -- but it's a start.


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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    I mean I don't think many people under 15 really knows what it means to commit suicide. I certainly had never thought about it until I was about 17.
    Before 2000, I had only heard of one child suiciding at age 9; now, it seems you cannot open a newspaper and not read about it.

    It's a goddamned epidemic.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I'm certainly no expert, but I would guess that younger children have a much higher suicide rate now than they did 20 years ago, and that the difference is almost entirely due to the net.
    Due to the net? That's ridiculous

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Ever sit a child in front of the television to get a moment's peace, Henrin?

    Why does this work on virtually all kids? Because the tv mesmerizes them. Now, imagine if they could talk with the people on tv, so could all their friends, and that the tv followed them everywhere they went.

    Imagine too, that the people on the tv were pedophiles with worldclass child manipulation skills.

    This analogy doesn't entirely explain why the internet has been a game-changer -- but it's a start.

    Ok, lets blame the person who invented the internet.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Due to the net? That's ridiculous
    I don't know if she is right or not (I suspect she is, at least partly).

    But before calling her statement 'ridiculous', maybe you could supply some reasons as to why it is 'ridiculous'?

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Ok, lets blame the person who invented the internet.
    What good would that do? Do you blame Nobel for every murder committed with a gun? Do you blame Einstein for every murder committed by atomic poisoning?

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