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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    And now comes the ad hominem......an obvious sign of failure and of inevitable submission. I graciously accept your surrender and your apology as well for being so intellectually dishonest and so inept at real debate. Good night.
    Holy ****!
    You really are full of your self, aren't you?

    And still focusing on the person, and of course exposing yourself as being wrong.


    Too bad you are wrong.
    Which I suppose will now be a regular occurrence with you.
    The future will tell.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Holy ****!
    You really are full of your self, aren't you?

    And still focusing on the person, and of course exposing yourself as being wrong.


    Too bad you are wrong.
    Which I suppose will now be a regular occurrence with you.
    The future will tell.
    What amazes me if that no matter how serious the subject under discussion might be, "some people" are so willing to jack a thread so as to indulge a petty squabble and stroke their own ego.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    People who bully are people who usually are insecure about something in their own lives.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    People who bully are people who usually are insecure about something in their own lives.
    Maybe this is true of children....it certainly isn't as to adults. There, the motive is sadism, most of the time.

    There's an American nurse who had a habit of joining suicide chatrooms, to find other adults considering suicide. She used her medical knowledge to teach people how to kill themselves, and then made "suicide pacts" with them which resulted in at least 8 deaths that we know of.

    The US could not prosecute this man, because of our freedom of speech laws. (All the victims were adults.) Canada eventually arrested this person and once they did, the US state that had issued this man a nursing license revoked it. There's little doubt, this man was motivated by a sadistic desire to be entertained by leading depressed people to suicide.


    William Francis Melchert-Dinkel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The technology and its impact on our lives, its potential for abuse, is outstripping out capacity to understand as well as our ability to make adequate new criminal laws.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Yes, on the right facts that's exactly what I am saying.
    Yeah..I think that is insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yeah..I think that is insane.
    I understand that's how you see things, Henrin. But IF I could convince you that a child can be brainwashed on the net, I doubt you'd hold fast.

    So really, all we disagree about is the power and ubiquity of the technology.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    No, the child is not responsible, Henrin. The internet creates a potential for a level of brain washing on a vulnerable person that almost no drug we have invented can achieve -- and with kids, it is pretty common that their friends and classmates know all about whatever interaction is burning a hole in their life.
    Now she was brainwashed somehow? When did that happen in the story? Though yes, your friends and classmates might know if you put your boobs on the Internet and people are all talking about it and sharing the pictures. Sometimes you do stupid ignorant things and you pay for them in this life and the Internet doesn't change that much. It just speeds up the delivery and makes it harder to control the damage.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yeah..I think that is insane.
    Can someone be punished for encouraging someone to commit suicide? William Francis Melchert-Dinkel, who has been referenced in this thread, was a nurse who joined suicide chat rooms and encouraged people to commit suicide, falsely entered suicide pacts, and watched those who committed suicide via webcam. Should he have been punished?

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I seriously don't understand how one can hear about this story, presumably watch the video and yet reserve their harshest judgment for the girl.
    The thing that really gets me is that there's always the, crowd that thinks their "girl" who somehow got tricked into flashing her boobs online. I'm willing to bet this wasn't her first big ****-up, was it Mom and Dad?

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Can someone be punished for encouraging someone to commit suicide? William Francis Melchert-Dinkel, who has been referenced in this thread, was a nurse who joined suicide chat rooms and encouraged people to commit suicide, falsely entered suicide pacts, and watched those who committed suicide via webcam. Should he have been punished?
    Melchel-Dinkel presents a huge challenge to our system of justice. We can all see that an adult with evil intentions can say and do things that create a heightened risk of suicide among adults. We can all see that if we criminalize all discussions another adult might rely on, we have effectively muffled free speech.

    It's a damned shame, but we have a clear path to criminalizing fraud and wanton destruction and other types of harms committed via the net -- but acts that create a risk of physical harm are much, much harder for us to control without treading on the freedoms we all hold dear.


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