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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Where again? And what exactly did I say?

    Until then, is she not responsible for flashing her tits? Of course she is.
    That is not judging her. Saying that she is a dirt-bag for doing so, would be.
    But I haven't said anything like that, have I?
    Well that's it for me, I am through trying to reach this person.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I do not know Excon and am certainly not defending his remarks....but....it isn't uncommon for an adult to have difficulty intuiting just how the internet can and does impact a child. And even when we all agree "something must be done", it is not easy to craft laws that criminalize the behavior we abhore but leave our freedom of speech intact.
    It's simple - call out the bullies.

    Post their names and all the information you can find on public chat forums like twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc..

    You think a perverted grown man is going to want the world to know that he asked a young teenager to flash for him online?

    Don't do anything illegal - just bring these cockroaches out into the light for all to see.


    The same with bullies at school.

    Get a friend to film them doing their bullying to others and post the video along with their names.

    And if the vid is bad enough it may go viral (like those kds that verbally abused that woman on the bus a few months back).

    These bullying losers count on the fact that their victims will keep their mouths shut.

    End this security and they will lessen their bullying actions - guaranteed.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post


    The rat bastards who use the internet to deliberately lead a child to suicide for their own amusement need to be doing time for murder, IMO.
    So you are saying leading someone to kill themselves should not only be crime, but it should be treated as equal to pulling the trigger yourself?

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is what I said, yes.



    She might have very well been failed to some degree, but in the end what she did with her life she is solely held responsible for.
    No, the child is not responsible, Henrin. The internet creates a potential for a level of brain washing on a vulnerable person that almost no drug we have invented can achieve -- and with kids, it is pretty common that their friends and classmates know all about whatever interaction is burning a hole in their life.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    You are wrong. Claiming she is solely responsible is the same as passing blame on her, Blaming someone for an action is the same as judging them guilty of said action.

    If you claim that someone is "solely responsible" for committing a murder.....are you not blaming them for the murder and thereby "passing judgement"?

    Your argument here is simply ripe with flawed logic.

    No!
    You know damn well that there is a difference.

    She is responsible. That is not judging her in that sense.
    Calling her a dirt-bag for doing so, would be.
    Stop trying to twist to make things fit what you want them to.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well that's it for me, I am through trying to reach this person.
    Wise move, imo.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Where again? And what exactly did I say?
    Try to keep up. The post you responded to was my reply to someone who made a comment about her flashing her tits. Doesn't really matter to me if it was you or not. To me you all sound just the same

    Until then, is she not responsible for flashing her tits? Of course she is.
    That is not judging her. Saying that she is a dirt-bag for doing so, would be.
    But I haven't said anything like that, have I?
    You have posted nothing that would lead me do believe that you understand compassion or even simple decency. /shrug

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That DOESN'T make it right.
    Until changed, it does make it right.


    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I do NOT believe that children should EVER be charged as adults.
    Your belief?
    Then get active and have the laws changed so no child could ever be held responsible for anything.
    Until then, your opinion is just that, an opinion.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    No!
    You know damn well that there is a difference.

    She is responsible. That is not judging her in that sense.
    Calling her a dirt-bag for doing so, would be.
    Stop trying to twist to make things fit what you want them to.
    If you are going to use a word......don't use it so flippantly. It would be wise for you to know all of its connotations prior to posting. To do so is one of the signs of a seasoned debator...............and this obviously rules you out. :
    "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." - Dr. Carl Sagan

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    It's simple - call out the bullies.

    Post their names and all the information you can find on public chat forums like twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc..

    You think a perverted grown man is going to want the world to know that he asked a young teenager to flash for him online?

    Don't do anything illegal - just bring these cockroaches out into the light for all to see.
    I've thought about this, but I really think this is criminal activity that our cops and prosecutors need to address.

    Do you happen to know the Megan Meier case?

    Megan was 12 when she went online (in her room) and joined MySpace, against her parents' instructions. There, she was befriended by what she believed was a 16 year old boy. For a few months, he romanced her, then suddenly, he rejected her and told she was a horrible person -- at great length.

    Megan was 13 when she suicided.

    After she died, her parents discovered the 16 year old boy was a hoax, and the real person behind the profile was their 43 year old neighbor, Lori Drew. Drew knew Megan not only as a neighbor but as her own 13 year old daughter's playmate -- and she knew Megan had been under a psychiatrist's care for serious depression for years. Drew evidentially was angry because she suspected Megan was no longer as interested in her child's friendship as she had once been.

    When these facts emerged, the federal DA tried Drew and got a conviction under a computer fraud law, but this conviction was overturned on appeal.

    As we sit here today, Drew's conduct remains perfectly legal, but a bill that would criminalize it is pending in Congress.


    Bill Text - 111th Congress (2009-2010) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

    I'd urge everyone reading this to contact their lawmakers and ask them to pass that bill.

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