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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    This girl committed no crime......she was the victim. Your example is meaningless as we're not really talking about a court of law, are we? We're not talking about "legal" responsibility.......we're talking about "personal" responsibility, are we not?
    You made a patently false statement. It was shown to be false. Admit your error and drive on.

    The truth is it doesn't matter as to which setting.

    Kids are, and can be, held solely responsible for their actions.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Not saying you are, but I think many are confusing her being responsible for her actions, as passing judgement on her.
    The two are exclusive.
    If an adult predator were able to lure a child into the woods and kill them, would you blame the child?

    Obviously not.

    I can understand that some people have trouble grasping just how immediate, intense, global and overwhelming the internet can be to a child, but this is ignorance. Your inability to grasp that neither this child nor her parents were in control is just that -- ignorance.

    Any adult who seeks children on the net and then abuses that child to suicide is a murderer, plain as if they had shot that kid to death. The law needs to adapt to modern technology and treat the internet as the weapon it can be.


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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Sure dude - sure.


    Have a nice day.
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    You too dude!

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Talking about "flashing her tits" is judging her, even suggesting she kinda deserved what she had happen to her. Let's not start trying to pretend you have any sense of compassion.
    I do not know Excon and am certainly not defending his remarks....but....it isn't uncommon for an adult to have difficulty intuiting just how the internet can and does impact a child. And even when we all agree "something must be done", it is not easy to craft laws that criminalize the behavior we abhore but leave our freedom of speech intact.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Really? Maybe we should have a poll question about that. You and a couple of others here are either cold-hearted snakes, or you have some kind of issues. You're behavior here on this thread is completely antisocial IMO.
    You are funny.
    My participation is now anti-social. You are hilarious.
    Saying she is responsible for her own actions is now anti-social? You are absolutely hilarious.

    Wrong! But still hilarious.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    This is your claim by default. You said we are responsible for our own actions "no matter our age".
    That is what I said, yes.

    By making this claim, you are directly implying that NO ONE else is responsible for said action.....even if the action was performed by a child. A child's "social" actions are most often a direct result of the level socialization which the child as attained. If NO ONE else should be held responsible for the child's actions, then we must preclude that NO ONE else should be held accountable for their socialization or "up-bringing" either.
    She might have very well been failed to some degree, but in the end what she did with her life she is solely held responsible for.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Not saying you are, but I think many are confusing her being responsible for her actions, as passing judgement on her.
    The two are exclusive.
    You are wrong. Claiming she is solely responsible is the same as passing blame on her, Blaming someone for an action is the same as judging them guilty of said action.

    If you claim that someone is "solely responsible" for committing a murder.....are you not blaming them for the murder and thereby "passing judgement"?

    Your argument here is simply ripe with flawed logic.
    "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." - Dr. Carl Sagan

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You made a patently false statement. It was shown to be false. Admit your error and drive on.

    The truth is it doesn't matter as to which setting.

    Kids are, and can be, held solely responsible for their actions.
    That DOESN'T make it right. I do NOT believe that children should EVER be charged as adults. It is a FACT that their brains are still developing and they are not capable of certain things, like empathy (which is ONE reason why bullying occurs most of the time between children), critical-thinking, realizing that life extends beyond high school and their group of friends, etc., etc., etc. For you to hold this CHILD responsible shows that you may also lack critical-thinking skills.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You are funny.
    My participation is now anti-social. You are hilarious.
    Saying she is responsible for her own actions is now anti-social? You are absolutely hilarious.

    Wrong! But still hilarious.
    It is your lack of tact and adult-like behavior that leads me to my conclusions.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Talking about "flashing her tits" is judging her, even suggesting she kinda deserved what she had happen to her. Let's not start trying to pretend you have any sense of compassion.
    Where again? And what exactly did I say?

    Until then, is she not responsible for flashing her tits? Of course she is.
    That is not judging her. Saying that she is a dirt-bag for doing so, would be.
    But I haven't said anything like that, have I?

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