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The bullies win again[W710; 739]

ric27 said:
You help those that want to help themselves

The issue here is, the skank was on on a self-destructive path with ZERO individual responsibility

Know the difference
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She was a child.

You are a douchebag.
 
Excon said:
I suppose, to each their own on that.

Which still doesn't change the fact that she alone is responsible for her actions.

No one else.
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no children arent held responsible for their actions..
 
Fisher said:
Typically in my area the counseling is done by a psychologist and the meds are prescribed by a psychiatrist. Teenagers and mental drugs do not always mix well together. A medicine or dosage that works this week may not next due to the hormones, changing bodies. Not taking sides, just adding info for consideration.
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The point of stating she was on meds, was to show that she had a Professional also involved in her life besides her father, (and as we know, supposedly many friends) who weren't able to help this unstable girl.
 
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mac said:
What do you people think would happen to your kids if you let them off the reigns?

You want to blame someone? I mean, other than the adult pervert that stalked her, blame the adults in her life that let her down.

Other than that, you douchebags can go to hell.
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She did not kill herself because of some adult. Stalker/harasser or otherwise.


Damn folks, get a grasp on the facts.


And calling folks douchebags isn't going to change the facts.
 
I was obviously talking about her flashing this guy on the internet not the long term implications of death people. Read the sentance. And you're entitled to your opinions..Its like an asshole everyones got one. If you want to blame this 15 year old girl for not coping as you would have, great! I hope you don't have children you may have 'o empathize with one day. People come in all different strengths and sizes. Just because you survived your torment and I survived mine doesn't mean everyone can. My friend in grade school beat leukemia, my uncle died of leukemia at the age of 40. Guess he just didn't try enough. My dad beat a 20 year addiction to crack, my mom is still lost in her bottle. Guess shes weak. I suffered with depression my whole life, my best friend.CJ.killed himself due to his depression at 15... I guess they should all take responsibility.for their physical, mental, and emotional failures right?
 
Medusa said:
no children arent held responsible for their actions..
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Yes they are.
All the time and under many different situations.

Many are even charged as adults in criminal court and sentenced as such.
 
Excon said:
The point of stating she was on meds, was to show that she had a Professional also involved in her life besides her father, (and as we know, supposedly many friends) who weren't able to help this unstable girl.
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I am aware of that. I was just pointing out however that the 5 minutes the typical drug pusher spends with a patient is not really counseling. She may or may not have had counseling as well.
 
Excon said:
My previous comment should have been the impetus for you to do some research.
And it was already posted in this thread.

Referring to the possibility they might have the wrong man, they add: 'At the most this is the person who did this to Amanda Todd, and at the least it's another pedophile that enjoys taking advantage of children.'
Amanda Todd: Anonymous names man who drove teen to kill herself for spreading nude pictures | Mail Online​

They weren't sure. Sorry you didn't know that.
And it does seem as though it is turning out that they are wrong.
Go figure, huh?
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Yeah, I was asking you to make your point more clearly. This thread is 67 pages long. You made a statement and I assumed you had some information.

I did some more research after your defensive response. It seems he has tormented others in a similar fashion and was even celebrated for his "skill" in doing it. Fame is a dangerous thing and it appears he is going to learn that. Whether he is responsible in Todd's case or not, it doesn't appear he is worthy of much compassion . Certainly, not more than she was.

Tracing Kody Maxson, the Online Blackmailer Alleged to Have Tormented Amanda Todd | VICE
 
Moderator's Warning:
Thread bans and infractions have been issued. I have plenty more where that came from. This thread is going to adopt a more civil tone, one way or another.
 
Medusa said:
Let him who is without sin cast the first stone
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And how in the hell does this have anything to do with your emotions and "out for blood" attitude over this issue getting in the way of you seeing that her father DID try to help?


As a law enforcement officer I have seen suicides first hand..... I have been to those houses multiple times WITNESSING WITH MY OWN EYES the parents doing EVERYTHING THEY COULD to keep this kid from killing him/herself. Just because the person finally succeeded doesn't mean that the parents weren't doing enough.


Regardless.... in response to your jesus quote..... Im not the one casting stones....

I think those who want to find all sorts of other people to blame but the person who committed suicide themselves... blaming everyone but the one person who had the choice of life or death.... is a bunch of people casting stones. Not me. I'm placing responsibility for the suicide where it belongs... on the shoulders of the deceased.
 
Excon said:
She did not kill herself because of some adult. Stalker/harasser or otherwise.


Damn folks, get a grasp on the facts.


And calling folks douchebags isn't going to change the facts.
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This is why your posts aren't credible on this issue.

You completely ignore the guy who shared her pictures with everyone else on FB, attributing to her bullying and eventual suicide.
 
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Fisher said:
I am aware of that. I was just pointing out however that the 5 minutes the typical drug pusher spends with a patient is not really counseling. She may or may not have had counseling as well.
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I do not know?
Is that the way it works there in Canada?
One would think that there needs to be some form of preparatory work before a prescription for such would be given to a non-adult.

Regardless, there was a Professional involved with her.
 
Medusa said:
no children arent held responsible for their actions..
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Another reason why our society is down the ****hole..........

Next time you ever wonder why so many young people are imprisoned....

You just answered your own question.
 
Caine said:
And how in the hell does this have anything to do with your emotions and "out for blood" attitude over this issue getting in the way of you seeing that her father DID try to help?


As a law enforcement officer I have seen suicides first hand..... I have been to those houses multiple times WITNESSING WITH MY OWN EYES the parents doing EVERYTHING THEY COULD to keep this kid from killing him/herself. Just because the person finally succeeded doesn't mean that the parents weren't doing enough.


Regardless.... in response to your jesus quote..... Im not the one casting stones....

I think those who want to find all sorts of other people to blame but the person who committed suicide themselves... blaming everyone but the one person who had the choice of life or death.... is a bunch of people casting stones. Not me. I'm placing responsibility for the suicide where it belongs... on the shoulders of the deceased.
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does law say girls can commit suicide and it is their own fault?? if they are slut ,they can kill themselves?
 
Medusa said:
do you know what jesus said ?
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If you want to dump religion in here...maybe she should have stopped her sinning and got on her knees to pray to God for forgiveness before offin' herself would have been a good start
 
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Excon said:
I do not know?
Is that the way it works there in Canada?
One would think that there needs to be some form of preparatory work before a prescription for such would be given to a non-adult.

Regardless, there was a Professional involved with her.
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That is how it works down here in America. I don't know what you folks do up there in the United States. :sword:

(that is how it works for all the folks I know who are looney as a bat--which are legion)
 
I think proven bullies should not only be expelled, but lose any grants/scholarships. That would be a nice middleground instead of rightfully sending these bastards to juvy/jail.
 
Medusa said:
does law say girls can commit suicide and it is their own fault?? if they are slut ,they can kill themselves?
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Whoa there....

Just because Jerry might thank me in a post here and there does NOT mean you can confront me with his use of terms... like slut.

Unless you think she is a slut... Why do you think that ?


As for what the law says..... That is an absurd question, you can't prosecute the dead for killing themselves.
 
Wake said:
This is why your posts aren't credible on this issue.

You completely ignore the guy who shared her pictures with everyone else on FB, attributing to her bullying and eventual suicide.
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And this is where you lose all credibility, and show everybody that all you are spouting is emotive blather, because I have said numerous time already that the guy should be held responsible for his actions. But her taking her life is not one of them.
She is solely responsible for that decision.
No one forced her. No one cajoled her. No one convinced her.
She decided to do it all on her own because she was unstable and could not cope.
No one else.

And what lead to that decision was not his actions.
Get your facts straight.
 
ric27 said:
If you want to dump religion in here...maybe she should have stopped her sinning and got on her knees to pray to God for forgiveness before offin' herself would have been a good start
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how do you know what they experienced ?
 
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Medusa said:
do you know what jesus said ?
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Yes I do!
Wash your hands before you sit down to eat.
:mrgreen:
 
Wow, wow. wow. After reading through pages of comments on here, I wish I could unread many of the posts. I strive every day to become a better human, a better person. This girl has been beaten up, demoralized and hated by this community. There are those of you who tried to come to her defense. There are many of you that simply feel like she deserved it. You expected her to whore herself out and then shame her for it.

I am sad to see how the objectification of women has clouded many of your views. One day you will not be on this earth, but your comments will be. It will be interesting to see what people say about you and your opinions when that day comes. Just imagine how you would feel if someone said the things you said, and they were talking about someone you are related to or someone close to you. It is clear to me some of you lack a conscience.

May this girl rest in peace, regardless of what you think about her.
 
Jerry said:
She was a nasty, rottin girl. All I need to do is describe her. The sky is blue, water is wet, and this girl was a skank. It's that easy.
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I don't agree that this girl was a nasty rotten girl or a skank. She was a confused teenager.

Anyhow, I would think people like you would like skanks, how else would a lunatic get laid?
 
Caine said:
Whoa there....

Just because Jerry might thank me in a post here and there does NOT mean you can confront me with his use of terms... like slut.

Unless you think she is a slut... Why do you think that ?


As for what the law says..... That is an absurd question, you can't prosecute the dead for killing themselves.
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i am just repeating what you all post and like.thats all
 
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