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The bullies win again[W710; 739]

Excon said:
If it is true it doesn't matter if it is disgusting. The truth should be known, not hidden to paint a different picture.
Painting a different picture other than the truth is also disgusting. Hiding it is far more disgusting than letting something disgusting be known, or stating ones opinion of it. Therefore your lambasting is falls into the category of being disgusting.
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Actually, since your posts have been neither logical nor empathetic on this issue, they really don't deserve much more than castigation.
 
Goshin said:
Moderator's Warning:
Some people are getting pretty upset over this thread, but before you flame do two things: report a post you think is in violation, and take a walk away from the keyboard.

Warning: personal attacks will not be tolerated... also, ANY needlessly inflammatory phrasings may be infracted if any mod believes it rises to the level of baiting or trolling, hereafter.

Everybody take a deep breath and a step back, mmkay? Don't make me bring out the Hammer.




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Thats a nice looking hammer.
 
BayToBay said:
What is your basis for questioning their level of certainty?
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Their level of certainty?

Surely you jest.

They have no true level of certainty.

Didn't you bother to check out what "they" said?
 
Medusa said:
i dont have to be by your side everytime to help you get rid of a problem. she says she needs someone .i think she just needed an understanding and adoring family..but if you have not a family fulfilling these essential needs ,any person who understands and listens to you can be helpful enough
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Ah... So you are only assuming that you might have been able to help then.

Well I have seen her father speak. He seems like a nice loving and caring guy.
He wasn't able to help even though he was aware of what was going on.

She was on antidepressants, indicating a professional that wasn't able to help.

What more do you need to understand that your input most likely would not have helped any.
 
Excon said:
Their level of certainty?

Surely you jest.

They have no true level of certainty.

Didn't you bother to check out what "they" said?
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Do you have a specific reason to believe they were guessing? Are you just making an emotionally based argument?
 
I have my facts straight she showed herself to this guy when she was in 7th grade (or 8th.because she actually flashed him a year later). This guy was somehow able to track her to 2 different schools and.expose her on facebook to all her "friends" And then the drama with the boyfriend who was already taken that got a group of kids to jump her. She was 15 when she killed herself.


If this guy had never tracked her down so vehemently just to coerce a strip tease from her then she wouldn't have ended up in the other situations. She made a bad choice as teenager (like omg no one ever does that!) and it haunted her . She didn't ask for this and as a teenager, i don't know about you, but I certainly wasn't able to gauge the long term effects od my actions at 15 or 16, let alone 13 or 14! To blame her is like blaming a child. She may have had the intellectual capacity to know what she did was wrong or even that suicide wasn't the answer, but her 15 year old emotions hadn't caught up to her rationale. An adutt can process that things will get better, sex, and peer conflict. This girl wasn't legally.able to.drive, consent to sex, or move herself out of the situation to more supportive surroundings.
 
Excon said:
Ah... So you are only assuming that you might have been able to help then.

Well I have seen her father speak. He seems like a nice loving and caring guy.
He wasn't able to help even though he was aware of what was going on.

She was on antidepressants, indicating a professional that wasn't able to help.

What more do you need to understand that your input most likely would not have helped any.
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i used them too in the past .i know how anxiety affects your life ,you cant breathe and you think you will die at that moment. and you cant know whether father is honest with his words or not.
 
Wake said:
Actually, since your posts have been neither logical nor empathetic on this issue, they really don't deserve much more than castigation.
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Stating that she is responsible for her own actions is logical.
Versus
Saying that a previous harasser, who's actions are far removed in time, and not even what she was complaining about at the time, is responsible for her actions, is not logical.
Since the above is true, you are wrong.
As wrong as wrong can be.

And stating that she is responsible has absolutely nothing to do with empathy, or a lack thereof.
 
Wake said:
OK, that's just ****ing disgusting. How could you say such absolutely nasty, rotten things? Where do you get off saying such crap about a dead girl you don't even know?
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She was a nasty, rottin girl. All I need to do is describe her. The sky is blue, water is wet, and this girl was a skank. It's that easy.
 
Medusa said:
i used them too in the past .i know how anxiety affects your life ,you cant breathe and you think you will die at that moment. and you cant know whether father is honest with his words or not.
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It's in his eyes dear. In his eyes.
 
Excon said:

She was on antidepressants, indicating a professional that wasn't able to help.

What more do you need to understand that your input most likely would not have helped any.
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Typically in my area the counseling is done by a psychologist and the meds are prescribed by a psychiatrist. Teenagers and mental drugs do not always mix well together. A medicine or dosage that works this week may not next due to the hormones, changing bodies. Not taking sides, just adding info for consideration.
 
Chelsea said:
I have my facts straight she showed herself to this guy when she was in 7th grade (or 8th.because she actually flashed him a year later). This guy was somehow able to track her to 2 different schools and.expose her on facebook to all her "friends" And then the drama with the boyfriend who was already taken that got a group of kids to jump her. She was 15 when she killed herself.


If this guy had never tracked her down so vehemently just to coerce a strip tease from her then she wouldn't have ended up in the other situations. She made a bad choice as teenager (like omg no one ever does that!) and it haunted her . She didn't ask for this and as a teenager, i don't know about you, but I certainly wasn't able to gauge the long term effects od my actions at 15 or 16, let alone 13 or 14! To blame her is like blaming a child. She may have had the intellectual capacity to know what she did was wrong or even that suicide wasn't the answer, but her 15 year old emotions hadn't caught up to her rationale. An adutt can process that things will get better, sex, and peer conflict. This girl wasn't legally.able to.drive, consent to sex, or move herself out of the situation to more supportive surroundings.
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At 15 you were not able to gauge the long term effects of death?

Strange.
 
Many of us were trying to enjoy a triumph of humanity, the first sky-dive from space, very cool stuff....but this little bitch wanted to straddle the media and attention-whore all over it.

You have to expect people to not appreciate that very much.
 
Chelsea said:
I have my facts straight she showed herself to this guy when she was in 7th grade (or 8th.because she actually flashed him a year later). This guy was somehow able to track her to 2 different schools and.expose her on facebook to all her "friends" And then the drama with the boyfriend who was already taken that got a group of kids to jump her. She was 15 when she killed herself.


If this guy had never tracked her down so vehemently just to coerce a strip tease from her then she wouldn't have ended up in the other situations. She made a bad choice as teenager (like omg no one ever does that!) and it haunted her . She didn't ask for this and as a teenager, i don't know about you, but I certainly wasn't able to gauge the long term effects od my actions at 15 or 16, let alone 13 or 14! To blame her is like blaming a child. She may have had the intellectual capacity to know what she did was wrong or even that suicide wasn't the answer, but her 15 year old emotions hadn't caught up to her rationale. An adutt can process that things will get better, sex, and peer conflict. This girl wasn't legally.able to.drive, consent to sex, or move herself out of the situation to more supportive surroundings.
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I sure as hell was, I was pretty good at it, too.

The issues I was facing at the time were how to live with a different parent, rather or not to encourage my significant other to have an abortion (what life would be like if we had the child or not, etc), and what classes I could take for collage credit for the degree I was looking into at the time.

I was just a normal guy, there's nothing super genius about me. A 16 y/o has greater understanding then you think.
 
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Medusa said:
his eyes werent enough..
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Not when your emotions are screaming, "OMG THAT POOR GIRL... ITS EVERYONE ELSES FAULT EXCEPT HERS!!!"
 
Chelsea said:
I have my facts straight she showed herself to this guy when she was in 7th grade (or 8th.because she actually flashed him a year later). This guy was somehow able to track her to 2 different schools and.expose her on facebook to all her "friends" And then the drama with the boyfriend who was already taken that got a group of kids to jump her. She was 15 when she killed herself.


If this guy had never tracked her down so vehemently just to coerce a strip tease from her then she wouldn't have ended up in the other situations. She made a bad choice as teenager (like omg no one ever does that!) and it haunted her . She didn't ask for this and as a teenager, i don't know about you, but I certainly wasn't able to gauge the long term effects od my actions at 15 or 16, let alone 13 or 14! To blame her is like blaming a child. She may have had the intellectual capacity to know what she did was wrong or even that suicide wasn't the answer, but her 15 year old emotions hadn't caught up to her rationale. An adutt can process that things will get better, sex, and peer conflict. This girl wasn't legally.able to.drive, consent to sex, or move herself out of the situation to more supportive surroundings.
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So what?

There are countless others out there that are bullied and mocked, but learn to to stay strong and not let it affect them.

Those have my respect.
 
What do you people think would happen to your kids if you let them off the reigns?

You want to blame someone? I mean, other than the adult pervert that stalked her, blame the adults in her life that let her down.

Other than that, you douchebags can go to hell.
 
BayToBay said:
Do you have a specific reason to believe they were guessing? Are you just making an emotionally based argument?
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My previous comment should have been the impetus for you to do some research.
And it was already posted in this thread.

Referring to the possibility they might have the wrong man, they add: 'At the most this is the person who did this to Amanda Todd, and at the least it's another pedophile that enjoys taking advantage of children.'
Amanda Todd: Anonymous names man who drove teen to kill herself for spreading nude pictures | Mail Online​

They weren't sure. Sorry you didn't know that.
And it does seem as though it is turning out that they are wrong.
Go figure, huh?
 
ric27 said:
So what?

There are countless others out there that are bullied and mocked, but learn to to stay strong and not let it affect them.

Those have my respect.
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So what do you have in mind for the nasty kids and teens who bully others? Nothing?
 
Medusa said:
his eyes werent enough..
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I suppose, to each their own on that.

Which still doesn't change the fact that she alone is responsible for her actions.

No one else.
 
mac said:
What do you people think would happen to your kids if you let them off the reigns?

You want to blame someone? I mean, other than the adult pervert that stalked her, blame the adults in her life that let her down.

Other than that, you douchebags can go to hell.
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You help those that want to help themselves

The issue here is, the skank was on on a self-destructive path with ZERO individual responsibility

Know the difference
 
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