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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    And where is your link to factual proof that she was emotionally unstable before any of the bullying on any level, at any time in her life occurred?

    If you have none, then you cannot know she was not rendered emotionally unstable by the abuse she received.

    You can guess, hope or believe...but you cannot know.
    I freely admit that I do not have that information. And we may never have it.

    But the likelihood that she just became unstable, is minimal to say the least.
    And is far more likely (because of the way brain chemistry is) that she was unstable to begin with that I have no problem assuming as much.
    She drank bleach.
    She cut herself.
    The likelihood is that these were not just sudden changes.

    Sorry dude. She was unstable to begin with.

    But lets say she wasn't. Nothing changes.
    She is still responsible for taking her own life. Nothing changes that.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    She is the blame for her own actions. Nothing you said changes that. Nothing at all.
    And again, so it is clear.


    What benefit? What purpose?
    It stops the wrong people from being blamed as apparently is the wont of some here.

    Stop blaming the wrong people and this portion of the discussion stops, and you may then be able to move on to ways to prevent the unpreventable.
    Well, if you're passing out blame, then the people who tormented her also share it, as does everyone who came into contact with this child, ESPECIALLY if they are leaving rotten comments on her memorial page even AFTER her death. That is COMPLETELY unforgivable as far as I'm concerned. Where is your blame for that? Don't you think that is extremely HURTFUL to the family. And if you're passing out blame, then those bullies DO share a part of the responsibility for this girl's family's grief too. So okay, let's play the blame game!!!

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    You, evidently, appear to be an individual who has a problem taking responsibility for much of anything. So, if this were your daughter, you'd not feel the tiniest shred of blame as her parent? Based on your views here, you'd likely not be on the top of many peoples' list of "capable baby-sitters."
    Oh....the old " So, if this were your daughter" crap

    Teach your child morals and values of life and once, the kid gets the understanding of it....you're golden

    Whats so freaking hard about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Oh....the old " So, if this were your daughter" crap

    Teach your child morals and values of life and once, the kid gets the understanding of it....you're golden

    Whats so freaking hard about that?
    OMG! I can't even BELIEVE it. Obviously you people don't know ANYTHING about teenagers!

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And?
    That does not excuse or relieve her of the responsibility in taking her own life.
    Seriously, does it give you pleasure to come across so cold? It would be a lot to ask of an adult to bear up under what she went through, much less a 14 year old kid. She did this because she was made to believe she was alone, hated and that she had no hope it would ever change. If I were one of the kids involved in this, I'd see her face in my mind every day of my life.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    You, evidently, appear to be an individual who has a problem taking responsibility for much of anything. So, if this were your daughter, you'd not feel the tiniest shred of blame as her parent? Based on your views here, you'd likely not be on the top of many peoples' list of "capable baby-sitters."
    Is that what you think, huh?
    ilol
    What makes you think that?
    Because I believe a person is responsible for their own actions?


    Well you are now starting to sound irrational, because there is absolutely no reason not to hold her responsible for her own actions.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    What makes you think that?
    Because I believe a person is responsible for their own actions?


    No. Because I KNOW that a child cannot always be held COMPLETELY responsible for his/her own actions. If you were a parent, you'd understand this as well. Evidently, you've only produced offspring.....this, obviously does not qualify one as a parent.
    "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." - Dr. Carl Sagan

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    OMG! I can't even BELIEVE it. Obviously you people don't know ANYTHING about teenagers!
    What makes a teenager NOT flash her tits on a webcam? What internal force stops her from doing that crap?

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Is that what you think, huh?
    ilol
    What makes you think that?
    Because I believe a person is responsible for their own actions?


    Well you are now starting to sound irrational, because there is absolutely no reason not to hold her responsible for her own actions.
    Nice, now we get inappropriate laughter. You know there are treatments available for antisocial personality disorder.

    "Lack of empathy is one of the most striking features of people with narcissistic personality disorder. It's a hallmark of the disorder in the same way that fear of abandonment is in borderline personality disorder.

    "Narcissists do not consider the pain they inflict on others; nor do they give any credence to others' perceptions," says Dr. Les Carter in the book Enough of You, Let's Talk About Me (p. 9). "They simply do not care about thoughts and feelings that conflict with their own." Do not expect them to listen, validate, understand, or support you.

    This is exacerbated when the person has a touch of antisocial personality disorder."

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    What makes a teenager NOT flash her tits on a webcam? What internal force stops her from doing that crap?
    Teenagers make mistakes and do stupid things all the time. This is NOT a news flash!

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