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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    We are responsible for the action we take no matter our age. It hardly matters what level of socialization we have.
    So children are simply responsible for their own socialization.....right? This is ridiculous.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    So children are simply responsible for their own socialization.....right? This is ridiculous.
    Did I say such a thing? No.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And?
    That does not excuse or relieve her of the responsibility in taking her own life.
    Who does it benefit by blaming this child for being distraught and for making a mistake that she cannot take back?

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    if you'd allow your own 12-15 year olds to be completely responsible for their own actions.........then I'd feel sincerely sorry for your children. As ChrisL said......she was just a child. We can't always hold children to the same levels of expected socialization as we do adults. You can't see this?
    What hell are you going on about that actually applies?
    What circumstance are we talking about here?
    Because most circumstance brought about by the child their self, they are responsible for.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    And where is your link to factual proof that she was emotionally unstable before any of the bullying on any level, at any time in her life occurred?

    If you have none, then you cannot know she was not rendered emotionally unstable by the abuse she received.

    You can guess, hope or believe...but you cannot know.
    Accept the fact that no one forced her to flash her tits on a webcam.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Who does it benefit by blaming this child for being distraught and for making a mistake that she cannot take back?
    lol
    As you already admit, you see it as a mistake. And she is and can be the only person to blame for such.

    Me I don't think it was a mistake. I believe she intended to end her life and succeeded.
    Failing would have been the mistake.

    What benefit? What purpose?
    It stops the wrong people from being blamed as apparently is the wont of some here.

    Stop blaming the wrong people and this portion of the discussion stops, and you may then be able to move on to ways to prevent the unpreventable.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    What hell are you going on about that actually applies?
    What circumstance are we talking about here?
    Because most circumstance brought about by the child their self, they are responsible for.
    Don't you get it that generally kids are not capable of critical-thinking skills and that their brains are still under development. Now if this was a 25, 30, 40 year old person, I might agree and say that perhaps yes, they maybe should think about how this will affect their friends and family and that maybe then it would be a "selfish" decision (although I'm still not sure), but seeing that this is a child who made a mistake and unfortunately cannot take THIS particular mistake back, I would say that you are being VERY unreasonable about it.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Did I say such a thing? No.
    This is your claim by default. You said we are responsible for our own actions "no matter our age". By making this claim, you are directly implying that NO ONE else is responsible for said action.....even if the action was performed by a child. A child's "social" actions are most often a direct result of the level socialization which the child as attained. If NO ONE else should be held responsible for the child's actions, then we must preclude that NO ONE else should be held accountable for their socialization or "up-bringing" either.


    I am a father of two children. I take FULL responsibility for their upbringing and for their actions while they are children and under my care and supervision.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Don't you get it that generally kids are not capable of critical-thinking skills and that their brains are still under development. Now if this was a 25, 30, 40 year old person, I might agree and say that perhaps yes, they maybe should think about how this will affect their friends and family and that maybe then it would be a "selfish" decision (although I'm still not sure), but seeing that this is a child who made a mistake and unfortunately cannot take THIS particular mistake back, I would say that you are being VERY unreasonable about it.
    She is the blame for her own actions. Nothing you said changes that. Nothing at all.
    And again, so it is clear.


    What benefit? What purpose?
    It stops the wrong people from being blamed as apparently is the wont of some here.

    Stop blaming the wrong people and this portion of the discussion stops, and you may then be able to move on to ways to prevent the unpreventable.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    What hell are you going on about that actually applies?
    What circumstance are we talking about here?
    Because most circumstance brought about by the child their self, they are responsible for.
    You, evidently, appear to be an individual who has a problem taking responsibility for much of anything. So, if this were your daughter, you'd not feel the tiniest shred of blame as her parent? Based on your views here, you'd likely not be on the top of many peoples' list of "capable baby-sitters."
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