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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    At what point did society stop being partly responsible for the socialization of our children?

    She was just a child and those around her obviously failed her in showing her compassion and in her social development. Her parents, her "friends", her schoolmates, her schoolmates' parents, those who watched her obvious pleas for help and were too cowardly to take any real action, those who've helped to propagate a "social networking" society where all are "free" create any persona they wish but where none are held accountable for who may get hurt as a result..........ALL must shoulder at least part of the blame. She was just a child.......who was obviously never given the guidance nor taught the social skills necessary to equip her to deal with the evils of the world. She never had a chance.

    It's too easy just to place all blame on this child and move on.......so convenient.............relieves all of us of so much responsibility doesn't it?

    I'm a HS teacher, and I've dealt with many cases of bullying similar to this.............thank God at least some of us have the compassion to intervene. If this had been my daughter, I would hope and pray that people wouldn't just "write her off" so easily. Did anyone "force" her to do it?.........No. But it doesn't take away from the fact that there are a world full of children out there........hurting..........who feel as if they've been abandoned. We all have a responsibility to intervene on behalf of those children who aren't equipped to handle these things alone. And we, as members of society, all share partly in the responsibility......especially those who dealt with this particular child directly. To simply stand by and leave the "unloved" and "unwanted" to their own choices and ultimately to their own demise is.......well.......inhuman.
    I agree with this, and by the way it is a very touching post. The only thing I have to say is that sometimes signs are easily missed. I'm not sure in this case, as I couldn't watch the video because it was too sad for me, so I don't know ALL of the details.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This is heartbreaking. I was bullied in school quite relentlessly in 7th grade, yet nothing like this. I wish I had known this girl so I could tell her that it gets better...a lot better. I never harbored any resentment for the kids who picked on me, because they were kids too. In this case, though, I hope the cowardly little punks get all the karma out of life that they deserve.
    You sound like a good person...

    ...plus you are a Cowboys fan, so you are an even better person (lol).

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No.
    It was a hypothetical.

    Here we have news reports and factual information with more than a scenario.

    Like I said, provide an actual case (it can't be that hard), and start a topic about it.
    I said I would reply. Your assuming anything from such a response is ridiculous.
    So you are apparently not capable - emotionally and/or intellectually - of answering hypothetical questions

    Noted.

    I will try and remember not to ask you any in future.


    Have a nice day.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This is heartbreaking. I was bullied in school quite relentlessly in 7th grade, yet nothing like this. I wish I had known this girl so I could tell her that it gets better...a lot better. I never harbored any resentment for the kids who picked on me, because they were kids too. In this case, though, I hope the cowardly little punks get all the karma out of life that they deserve and that Amanda finally has the peace she couldn't find in life.
    This was a point I was trying to make, perhaps not so successfully though, that the "kids" who picked on her were also children, and who knows if they have their own problems. I'm quite sure that there are plenty of people who were bullies as children but would never behave in such a way as adults.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    You sound like a good person...

    ...plus you are a Cowboys fan, so you are an even better person (lol).
    Thank you, perhaps all the bullying I endured in school was just prep for being a Cowboys fan. Lol.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Ahh, so the people responsible for the environment in which she was made more unstable have no responsbility for their actions. Im not saying its 100% either way. You refuse to hold others responsible for treating her in a dehumanizing fashion.

    Yes, her decision. Im saying she didnt have the support to treat that decision with her full mental capacity.
    You are assuming that she was made more unstable. lol
    Bs! She was unstable period.



    Secondly; Refuse? I have already said numerous times that the others are responsible for there actions.
    Why do people ignore, misrepresent and twist that, I will never know.

    But her taking her life is not one of them. She made that decision.
    Anybody that tries to place the blame on anyone other than her, is simply wrong.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    So you are apparently not capable - emotionally and/or intellectually - of answering hypothetical questions

    Noted.

    I will try and remember not to ask you any in future.


    Have a nice day.
    How many times do you have to be told?

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Thank you, perhaps all the bullying I endured in school was just prep for being a Cowboys fan. Lol.
    After that horrible time wasting at the end of yesterday's game, enduring pain (in sports) is something we 'boys fans are learning all too well...lol.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You are assuming that she was made more unstable. lol
    Bs! She was unstable period.



    Secondly; Refuse? I have already said numerous times that the others are responsible for there actions.
    Why do people ignore, misrepresent and twist that, I will never know.

    But her taking her life is not one of them. She made that decision.
    Anybody that tries to place the blame on anyone other than her, is simply wrong.
    But she is just a kid!

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    This was a point I was trying to make, perhaps not so successfully though, that the "kids" who picked on her were also children, and who knows if they have their own problems. I'm quite sure that there are plenty of people who were bullies as children but would never behave in such a way as adults.
    You know what though, even at that age, I still had friends who had the courage to remain my friends. Sounds like she didn't have that.

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