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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by John.NoseTip View Post
    The same reason people obsess over news about parents who do something bad to their children. It makes them feel better about themselves. Regardless of how bad a parent they are at least they never glued them to a wall. There are other things at play but that explains the lack of empathy by many.
    Maybe you have a point there. I think that some people just lack empathy, or they just don't understand human pain and suffering, but what do I know?

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Why does everyone feel the need to place blame somewhere? IMO, this was an unfortunate tragedy that could have been avoided, but is NOT necessarily anyone in particular's fault! An unfortunate chain of events led to this girl doing what she did. Bad decision-making surely played a role, but laying blame on anyone in this situation IMO is unwarranted.

    The girl took her life, not to hurt anyone else but to end her own pain (bad decision). The bullies who picked on her (no matter what cruel things they said), I am sure it was not THEIR goal for her to actually die. Her parents and the school and teachers missing signs or not paying close enough attention, human fallibility.
    Slander, defamation, extortion, blackmail, assault?

    All these things happened to this girl.

    These are 'unfortunate chains of events' to you?



    No wonder there is so much bullying going on in the world with ignorant summations and feel good generalities like that.

    'Sure, I could feel bad for her. But that's a bit uncomfortable for me. So instead I will just say it's no one's fault, we should do better in the future, blah blah and forget about it'.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Slander, defamation, extortion, blackmail, assault?

    All these things happened to this girl.

    These are 'unfortunate chains of events' to you?



    No wonder there is so much bullying going on in the world with ignorant summations and feel good generalities like that.

    'Sure, I could feel bad for her. But that's a bit uncomfortable for me. So instead I will just say it's no one's fault, we should do better in the future, blah blah and forget about it'.
    I really don't care what you think. If you read any of my posts on the matter, you would see that I am completely sympathetic for the child, and I do feel bad that she was bullied, but I will not say that anyone actually really wanted her to kill herself because I know that kids can be very cruel to one another. I refuse to participate in the blame game.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I really don't care what you think. If you read any of my posts on the matter, you would see that I am completely sympathetic for the child, and I do feel bad that she was bullied, but I will not say that anyone actually really wanted her to kill herself because I know that kids can be very cruel to one another. I refuse to participate in the blame game.
    So the people that instigated extortion, blackmail and assault against this girl should not be blamed, in your opinion?

    Noted.


    Have a nice day.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by John.NoseTip View Post
    The same reason people obsess over news about parents who do something bad to their children. It makes them feel better about themselves. Regardless of how bad a parent they are at least they never glued them to a wall. There are other things at play but that explains the lack of empathy by many.
    So sorry to interrupt your agreement fest, but what a silly response. That isn't happening here.

    The girl is responsible for her actions of taking her life.
    No one else.

    And you think that speaking the truth as such makes someone feel better about their self?
    Absolutely ludicrous!

    I think it makes you feel better to say these things about those you disagree with.



    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I think that some people just lack empathy, or they just don't understand human pain and suffering, but what do I know?
    And placing blame (where it belongs, with her), has absolutely nothing to do with such.


    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Slander, defamation, extortion, blackmail, assault?
    We have criminal laws against two of those and the others could have been pursued civilly if true.
    That is what normal people do. Do they not?



    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    These are 'unfortunate chains of events' to you?
    Unfortunately yes, as they were brought about in-part by her actions.
    She is the one who flashed.
    She is the one who knowingly slept with a taken person.
    That is not saying she is responsible for the other persons actions.
    The harassment should have been pursued criminally, as he is responsible for it.

    And no one should be able to lay their hands on another for such a reason. She should have pursued that criminally as well, as the other girl is responsible for it.

    But Amanda Todd is responsible for taking her own life. That is a decision she made.



    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I really don't care what you think.
    Of course you do not care what others who disagree with you think.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    So sorry to interrupt your agreement fest, but what a silly response. That isn't happening here.

    The girl is responsible for her actions of taking her life.
    No one else.

    And you think that speaking the truth as such makes someone feel better about their self?
    Absolutely ludicrous!

    I think it makes you feel better to say these things about those you disagree with.



    And placing blame (where it belongs, with her), has absolutely nothing to do with such.



    We have criminal laws against two of those and the others could have been pursued civilly if true.
    That is what normal people do. Do they not?




    Unfortunately yes, as they were brought about in-part by her actions.
    She is the one who flashed.
    She is the one who knowingly slept with a taken person.
    That is not saying she is responsible for the other persons actions.
    The harassment should have been pursued criminally, as he is responsible for it.

    And no one should be able to lay their hands on another for such a reason. She should have pursued that criminally as well, as the other girl is responsible for it.

    But Amanda Todd is responsible for taking her own life. That is a decision she made.




    Of course you do not care what others who disagree with you think.
    I don't think it's appropriate to play the blame game when it comes to a suicide.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    And no one should be able to lay their hands on another for such a reason. She should have pursued that criminally as well, as the other girl is responsible for it.

    But Amanda Todd is responsible for taking her own life. That is a decision she made.[/COLOR]
    You do not know her mental capacity? You do not know the total extent of the extortion, what this person(s) threatened to do to her were she to go to the police.

    You are in no position to be able to judge whether she could or could have gone to the police. You do not even know if she did or not.


    I will put a hypothetical to you;

    what if a father (who is a cop) rapes his 8 year old child every day for 4 years. Finally, the child takes her own life because she cannot see any other way to stop him from raping her.

    Now is he morally responsible at all for her suicide?

    Yes or no?

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    You do not know her mental capacity? You do not know the total extent of the extortion, what this person(s) threatened to do to her were she to go to the police.
    I know she was unstable enough to cut herself.
    I know she was unstable enough to drink bleach.
    I know she was unstable enough to take her own life.

    But she didn't say that she was threatened in such a way did she?
    And of course a rational person would still go to the police.



    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    You are in no position to be able to judge whether she could or could have gone to the police.
    I most certainly am. Because that is what normal people do when crimes are committed against them.
    But since she obviously wasn't normal... you know the drill.



    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I will put a hypothetical to you;

    what if a father (who is a cop) rapes his 8 year old child every day for 4 years. Finally, the child takes her own life because she cannot see any other way to stop him from raping her.

    Now is he at all responsible for her suicide?

    Yes or no?
    I am not playing your hypothetical game.
    Present an actual case in another thread and I will comment on it.

    This here is about Amanda Todd who is responsible for taking her own life.
    NOT someone else.

    Stop trying to blame other people for this unstable persons actions. It is sickening.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I am not playing your hypothetical game.
    Present an actual case in another thread and I will comment on it.

    This here is about Amanda Todd who is responsible for taking her own life.
    NOT someone else.

    Stop trying to blame other people for this unstable persons actions. It is sickening.
    I ask for a two or three letter answer to a simple hypothetical question?

    And you spend about 50 times as many letters giving excuses why you won't answer.

    I'd say that speaks volumes.

    I have my answer.


    Have a nice day.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I know she was unstable enough to cut herself.
    I know she was unstable enough to drink bleach.
    I know she was unstable enough to take her own life.

    But she didn't say that she was threatened in such a way did she?
    And of course a rational person would still go to the police.



    I most certainly am. Because that is what normal people do when crimes are committed against them.
    But since she obviously wasn't normal... you know the drill.



    I am not playing your hypothetical game.
    Present an actual case in another thread and I will comment on it.

    This here is about Amanda Todd who is responsible for taking her own life.
    NOT someone else.

    Stop trying to blame other people for this unstable persons actions. It is sickening.
    I cannot understand this need you and others seem to have to place blame. Some things are just tragedies that could have potentially been avoided. I think it's pretty sad that you cannot show one iota of compassion for this child.

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