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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    What is ridiculous is yoj placing all of the blame on her. Why you don't put some of the blame at her tormentor's feet is a good question.
    Besides "they" not being responsible, or even to blame for her actions (because as we all know, she is the responsible party), am I to assume you have a selective reading reading problem too?


    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I watched the video.
    It was a "Woe is me!" one.
    She was wrong for the flashing and the guy was wrong for using it against her in the way he did.

    And she got beat-up for her actions. Not that I believe it was a sufficient reason, but it was for her actions.


    And she went and laid down in a ditch.

    "Teachers ran over but I just went and layed in a ditch and my dad found me."
    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    The others, as already stated, are responsible for their actions.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Sorry, people that go out of their way to torment others with images or words that are purposely hurtful and intended to inflict pain and harm must bear some blame. People do not deserve to be treated in that way and placing all blame at the girl involved in this case lets those who tormented off entirely too lightly. They should feel some responsibility and shame at their actions, sadly they probably dont feel near enough to curb their behavior in the future.
    Not saying that this is the case here, but people who sit there and take the bullying and don't do anything to minimize it or separate themselves from it are also partly at blame.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Sorry, people that go out of their way to torment others with images or words that are purposely hurtful and intended to inflict pain and harm must bear some blame.
    No one said they should be held responsible for their actions.
    Did they?
    I believe what is be said this that they are not responsible for her taking her life. She is the sole reason for that decision. No one else.
    That isn't going to change.
    What needs to change is this blaming of others for someone's actions.



    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    People do not deserve to be treated in that way and placing all blame at the girl involved in this case lets those who tormented off entirely too lightly.
    Yet she deserves all the blame for taking her life. No one else - unless you wish to indict the parents for bring such an unstable person into existence in the first place.
    And this getting off to lightly bs, is just that, BS!



    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    They should feel some responsibility and shame at their actions, sadly they probably dont feel near enough to curb their behavior in the future.
    Not for her decision of taking her life. She is solely responsible.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    Not saying that this is the case here, but people who sit there and take the bullying and don't do anything to minimize it or separate themselves from it are also partly at blame.
    Ah yes, the let's blame others mentality.

    That is what needs to stop.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88
    Yes we did. It was like a year ago, but it happened.
    Ok, I did a quick search and found what you were talking about. I happen to still stand behind what I actually said there and no it does not match up with what you said about it.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Ah yes, the let's blame others mentality.

    That is what needs to stop.
    I'm not blaming anyone, obviously this is a tragedy and she and her family did everything they could to escape the circumstances, but that is not always the case.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    and she and her family did everything they could to escape the circumstances, but that is not always the case.
    That is not apparent from the reports given.
    And apparently she just created more circumstances where ever she went.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Yes, it does. By doing so you show a complete lack of empathy for the victim.
    I agree.

    These people are hopeless.

    Makes me wonder if they were/are bullies and are trying to remove responsibility for their actions.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Sorry, people that go out of their way to torment others with images or words that are purposely hurtful and intended to inflict pain and harm must bear some blame. People do not deserve to be treated in that way and placing all blame at the girl involved in this case lets those who tormented off entirely too lightly. They should feel some responsibility and shame at their actions, sadly they probably dont feel near enough to curb their behavior in the future.
    I accept and allow natural selection to work its course

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Why does everyone feel the need to place blame somewhere? IMO, this was an unfortunate tragedy that could have been avoided, but is NOT necessarily anyone in particular's fault! An unfortunate chain of events led to this girl doing what she did. Bad decision-making surely played a role, but laying blame on anyone in this situation IMO is unwarranted.

    The girl took her life, not to hurt anyone else but to end her own pain (bad decision). The bullies who picked on her (no matter what cruel things they said), I am sure it was not THEIR goal for her to actually die. Her parents and the school and teachers missing signs or not paying close enough attention, human fallibility.
    The same reason people obsess over news about parents who do something bad to their children. It makes them feel better about themselves. Regardless of how bad a parent they are at least they never glued them to a wall. There are other things at play but that explains the lack of empathy by many.

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