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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    And your prove of this is where in the first amendment? Please show how can they pass a law against it when they can't pass a law against it?



    Both are fine according to the first amendment and how speech actually works to begin with. Your argument basically says that if I hurt your feelings I'm a bad man and should be thrown in jail. Real free society you got there and really I want no part of it.
    It doesn't make you morally non-culpable, we'll say that.

    Look, we've tussled over how you think you should have the right to drive drunk if you want to. If you want to live in an anarchy, move to Somalia where you can do whatever you want. I'll stay here where I'm not blackmailed and where murder is illegal.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It doesn't make you morally non-culpable, we'll say that.

    Look, we've tussled over how you think you should have the right to drive drunk if you want to.
    We did? When did we tussle over the right to drive drunk? I don't remember that.

    If you want to live in an anarchy, move to Somalia where you can do whatever you want. I'll stay here where I'm not blackmailed and where murder is illegal.
    Somalia is back.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't want to legislate speech! I just got pissed when I read the awful BLAME GAME that was going on in this thread. The lack of compassion for a teenage girl who felt desperate enough to take her own life is just disgusting and pitiful. Blaming this one or that one is NOT helpful nor does it solve the problem. Is that REALLY what matters here? Who is to blame?
    Placing blame with her (where it belongs) does not show a lack of compassion.
    Secondly, assessing blame can be part of the problem solving process, especially when adjudging whether or not there really is a problem that can be/is to be, solved.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    We did? When did we tussle over the right to drive drunk? I don't remember that.
    Yes we did. It was like a year ago, but it happened.



    Somalia is back.
    Back where?


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    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Yes we did. It was like a year ago, but it happened.
    Really? I imagine you just misunderstood my argument then.


    Back where?
    Back in the fray. It can never be left out of a good brawl these days.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Placing blame with her (where it belongs) does not show a lack of compassion.
    Yes, it does. By doing so you show a complete lack of empathy for the victim.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Yes, it does. By doing so you show a complete lack of empathy for the victim.
    What a ridiculous concept.
    She is to blame for taking her own life, so placing blame at her feet (where it belongs) somehow shows a lack of empathy, or compassion.

    Clearly it does no such thing.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Admittedly, when I first heard about this, I thought she was just thinned skin, which a lot of people are. After reading into it though, I find that this vastly overstepped the lines of bullying and into criminal harassment.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    What a ridiculous concept.
    She is to blame for taking her own life, so placing blame at her feet (where it belongs) somehow shows a lack of empathy, or compassion.

    Clearly it does no such thing.
    What is ridiculous is yoj placing all of the blame on her. Why you don't put some of the blame at her tormentor's feet is a good question.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    What a ridiculous concept.
    She is to blame for taking her own life, so placing blame at her feet (where it belongs) somehow shows a lack of empathy, or compassion.

    Clearly it does no such thing.
    Sorry, people that go out of their way to torment others with images or words that are purposely hurtful and intended to inflict pain and harm must bear some blame. People do not deserve to be treated in that way and placing all blame at the girl involved in this case lets those who tormented off entirely too lightly. They should feel some responsibility and shame at their actions, sadly they probably dont feel near enough to curb their behavior in the future.

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