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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    This is why public schools are garbage, and private schools are a LOT better.
    So, kids don't get bullied in private schools now?
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    My view on bullying is...complicated. I was born with one ear. Called microtia, though, back then, they didn't really have a name for it, as they didn't recognize it as a genetic dissorder. Anway, though, as you can guess, my nickname all through my young life, well...one ear. Creative, right? These days, I've moved on to...one ear the pirate. ONLY because, after saying it, I get to yell "AARRRRGG!"

    I was bullied. A LOT. And the person I am, which, I would describe myself as strong, empathetic to a point, direct, determined, and moderately funny...is a result of being bullied. These qualities that I just listed...are all the DIRECT result of this. I don't know who I would be without my past. I am fighter, through and through. I'm tough. I'm the guy that endures on nothing more than grit, long after others quit. These are things that have made me successful, while others around me fail, many of whom are better suited to succeed than I, in so many ways. In short, I wouldn't change a damn thing about myself, which means not changing a thing about my past...especially the bullying.

    Having JUST said that, however, if I find out someone is doing the same to my son (who was born with the same condition), they are gonna have a fight on their hands, either from me, or from my son.

    It's funny, actually. My wife is very active in a facebook microtia group, and they had a northeast meet up a couple months ago. She wanted me to go, because the organizer of the group has listened to my wife talk about me, and thinks I would be someone good for these parents and kids to ask questions of. But I KNEW what so many of the questions were going to be...about this very subject. And frankly, I just didn't want to go. But, hey, she made me, lol. And at first, the questions were all about what it's like, etc etc. How to cope, if I felt that my options have been limited by it at all, etc. Eventually, though, the subject of bullying came up. And the spot light got put on me.


    And I told them.


    Get in a fight.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Sometimes when I was growing up I wished I could. Fortunately I was not capable of such feats of intimidation. Read my posts 47, 73, and 85. Let me know I am a bully afterwards. Alright?
    I did not say you were a bully. I said (based on your post) that you sounded like a bully justifying his actions.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Put it this way...if you never have anyone to stand up to, how do you ever learn to stand up for yourself?

    It's not so much condoning bullying, as I'll gleefully pound caught bullies right into the grass...

    It's a question of how we develop into the people we are.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Sounds like you were NOT on the recieving end then. I have more experiance in this than I care to admit. That said bottom line this is a problem that adults should rarely if at all interceed in. Children need to learn to deal with it themselves. The schools should give them the room to defend themselves. Otherwise the bullyies wil keep right on being bullyies. Its a harsh life lesson, but one well worth learning.
    I am not going to pointlessly debate with someone whose mind is made up.

    To suggest society should just sit back and let gangs of students beat the crap out of/threaten/intimidate defenseless teenagers and let those that are beaten just 'deal with it' is asinine.

    So if a street gang beats up a neighbor, and they are all 18... That is illegal to you and the police should be involved.

    But if all concerned are 17 and in school...that is legal to you and none of the law's business?

    Ridiculous imo.

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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I am not going to pointlessly debate with someone whose mind is made up.

    To suggest society should just sit back and let gangs of students beat the crap out of/threaten/intimidate defenseless teenagers and let those that are beaten just 'deal with it' is asinine.

    So if a street gang beats up a neighbor, and they are all 18... That is illegal to you and the police should be involved.

    But if all concerned are 17 and in school...that is legal to you and none of the law's business?

    Ridiculous imo.
    Maybe I am missing something here, are we talking about garden variety bullyies or street gangs. They are two totally diffrent breed of fish.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    My view on bullying is...complicated. I was born with one ear. Called microtia, though, back then, they didn't really have a name for it, as they didn't recognize it as a genetic dissorder. Anway, though, as you can guess, my nickname all through my young life, well...one ear. Creative, right? These days, I've moved on to...one ear the pirate. ONLY because, after saying it, I get to yell "AARRRRGG!"

    I was bullied. A LOT. And the person I am, which, I would describe myself as strong, empathetic to a point, direct, determined, and moderately funny...is a result of being bullied. These qualities that I just listed...are all the DIRECT result of this. I don't know who I would be without my past. I am fighter, through and through. I'm tough. I'm the guy that endures on nothing more than grit, long after others quit. These are things that have made me successful, while others around me fail, many of whom are better suited to succeed than I, in so many ways. In short, I wouldn't change a damn thing about myself, which means not changing a thing about my past...especially the bullying.

    Having JUST said that, however, if I find out someone is doing the same to my son (who was born with the same condition), they are gonna have a fight on their hands, either from me, or from my son.

    It's funny, actually. My wife is very active in a facebook microtia group, and they had a northeast meet up a couple months ago. She wanted me to go, because the organizer of the group has listened to my wife talk about me, and thinks I would be someone good for these parents and kids to ask questions of. But I KNEW what so many of the questions were going to be...about this very subject. And frankly, I just didn't want to go. But, hey, she made me, lol. And at first, the questions were all about what it's like, etc etc. How to cope, if I felt that my options have been limited by it at all, etc. Eventually, though, the subject of bullying came up. And the spot light got put on me.


    And I told them.


    Get in a fight.
    Theres a technical term for that advise its called reprisal. I say thats the best advise of the forum. I am glad you gave those people that advise. You said it better than I could by far. Thnx.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    There are already laws in place which cover assault and the distribution of child pornography. Use those laws but don't institute new ones.
    Neither of which apply in this or most cases of severe bullying. verbal abuse and torment not physical read the posts.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    My view on bullying is...complicated. I was born with one ear. Called microtia, though, back then, they didn't really have a name for it, as they didn't recognize it as a genetic dissorder. Anway, though, as you can guess, my nickname all through my young life, well...one ear. Creative, right? These days, I've moved on to...one ear the pirate. ONLY because, after saying it, I get to yell "AARRRRGG!"

    I was bullied. A LOT. And the person I am, which, I would describe myself as strong, empathetic to a point, direct, determined, and moderately funny...is a result of being bullied. These qualities that I just listed...are all the DIRECT result of this. I don't know who I would be without my past. I am fighter, through and through. I'm tough. I'm the guy that endures on nothing more than grit, long after others quit. These are things that have made me successful, while others around me fail, many of whom are better suited to succeed than I, in so many ways. In short, I wouldn't change a damn thing about myself, which means not changing a thing about my past...especially the bullying.

    Having JUST said that, however, if I find out someone is doing the same to my son (who was born with the same condition), they are gonna have a fight on their hands, either from me, or from my son.

    It's funny, actually. My wife is very active in a facebook microtia group, and they had a northeast meet up a couple months ago. She wanted me to go, because the organizer of the group has listened to my wife talk about me, and thinks I would be someone good for these parents and kids to ask questions of. But I KNEW what so many of the questions were going to be...about this very subject. And frankly, I just didn't want to go. But, hey, she made me, lol. And at first, the questions were all about what it's like, etc etc. How to cope, if I felt that my options have been limited by it at all, etc. Eventually, though, the subject of bullying came up. And the spot light got put on me.


    And I told them.


    Get in a fight.
    I hope you mean a fight to improve the situation or to call out the bullyies to the school. Physical is just repeating the cycle.
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    re: The bullies win again[W710; 739]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    Neither of which apply in this or most cases of severe bullying. verbal abuse and torment not physical read the posts.
    Where are you getting that? The girl had naked pictured of her distributed across the web. Presumably she was a minor when that happened so it's kiddie porn. Furthermore she was beaten and left in a ditch. That's assault.

    Did you watch the video?

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