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    Re: Princeton Economist: Obama Campaign Is Misrepresenting My Study on Romney's Tax P

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
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    Nothing new, I see.
    Guess the realization of your title of this thread

    ": Princeton Economist: Obama Campaign Is Misrepresenting My Study on Romney's Tax Plan

    and the lack of support for the statement is something I can readily expect from you then? This is nothing new from you?
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    Re: Princeton Economist: Obama Campaign Is Misrepresenting My Study on Romney's Tax P

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Guess the realization of your title of this thread

    ": Princeton Economist: Obama Campaign Is Misrepresenting My Study on Romney's Tax Plan

    and the lack of support for the statement is something I can readily expect from you then? This is nothing new from you?
    yawn..........
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    Re: Princeton Economist: Obama Campaign Is Misrepresenting My Study on Romney's Tax P

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    Re: Princeton Economist: Obama Campaign Is Misrepresenting My Study on Romney's Tax P

    Wow.

    I'm still voting for Obama, but these true believers are insane. You got Haymarket and Muddy Waters doing anything to shut their eyes and ears and ignore the truth, and 274ina with some truly crazy ideas. Just...wow.
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    Re: Princeton Economist: Obama Campaign Is Misrepresenting My Study on Romney's Tax P

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    People b**** and moan, but don't actually do anything about it.
    So we wouldn't say fail to re-elect someone who broke a promise about no new taxes?
    We wouldn't encourage our politicians to pander to us about how they will lower taxes?
    There wouldn't be any political pressure to get politicians to pledge not to increase taxes?

    I'm not buying the theory that the govt takes from us w/o reproach. ymmv
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Princeton Economist: Obama Campaign Is Misrepresenting My Study on Romney's Tax P

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    The weekly standard is a right wing controlled magazine.



    Who's William Kristol? Who's Fred Barnes?


    And there's no copy of the email. Sounds like a pundit lie. Smells like it. Is reacted by others like it.

    Where's the email?
    What about it makes it sound or smell like a lie? They listed the source of the information, the format and the person who wrote it. The Weekly Standard has no history of manufacturing emails. So, the only reason you are putting forth to back up your claim that the email is manufactured is that TWS has a conservative viewpoint. If you have some evidence, present it. If you dont beleive it, then theres no point in you posting in this thread, so move on.

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    Re: Princeton Economist: Obama Campaign Is Misrepresenting My Study on Romney's Tax P

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Punish? By raising their Taxes to what they paid under Bush's first year? 39%?

    Reupblicans sure can't do the math. 39% of $250,000 and above is a LOT more take home than 28% on $25,000. Sides, Romney wants to end taxes for people who just close businesses, take their pension plans, and do not actually have an income from it, just "capital gains".
    Yea, like anyone making 25000/yr is paying ANY income taxes, let alone 28%.
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    Re: Princeton Economist: Obama Campaign Is Misrepresenting My Study on Romney's Tax P

    Quote Originally Posted by RenoCon View Post
    Yea, like anyone making 25000/yr is paying ANY income taxes, let alone 28%.
    And since when are taxed based on what we take home?

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    Re: Princeton Economist: Obama Campaign Is Misrepresenting My Study on Romney's Tax P

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Really?

    What lies?

    What business down sized because of it?
    How about the flood of green jobs and the companies that never made it despite Obama's promises:

    Solar Trust of America
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    Long List of Failed Obama Green Energy & Solar Companies in the Billions
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    Re: Princeton Economist: Obama Campaign Is Misrepresenting My Study on Romney's Tax P

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Whoops!!! Another liberal talking point bites the dust.

    So...I wonder...is the Obama team dumb?...or are they liars?

    In either case, they've learned to not mess with a Princeton Professor's work.
    Quite the opposite, as this proves the validity of the original claim: the Romney tax cut can not, in and of itself, be revenue neutral.

    If you actual read the article, they blast the assumption that TPC said there would be "no economic growth". They do not refute the TPC facts; only TPC not including some hypothetical revenue growth from an improved economy. In argument, they MUST have economic growth to have a chance of being revenue neutral. In other words, the Cons are trying to once again con us with the notion that tax cuts, by themselves, generate economic growth. This remains, at very best, an unproven suggestion... Moreover, saying the the government must take the risk that the tax cut will leave them "revenue neutral" is an absurd investment proposition... why would we go from a known tax base to an unknown tax base, where the upside is where we are today? In essence, the cons want to once again cut taxes first on the HOPE it gets paid back later.

    Sorry, this is a bill of goods that anyone paying attention or with half a brain can see right through. The fact of the matter is that the tax cut WILL cost the treasury known revenue (and therefore increase deficits, if not offset by other tax increases) and MAY be revenue neutral IF there is economic growth as a result.

    ... sorry, we have been there and done that. In the words of that snake oil salesman ".... fooled me once,........ya won't get fooled again."
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