... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.
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"I am appalled that somebody who is the nominee...would take that kind of position"
"A court took away a presidency"
"...the brother of a man running for president was the governor of the state..."
It's horrifying because Trump is blunt instead of making overt implications.
I'm still voting for Obama, but these true believers are insane. You got Haymarket and Muddy Waters doing anything to shut their eyes and ears and ignore the truth, and 274ina with some truly crazy ideas. Just...wow.
The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected.
We wouldn't encourage our politicians to pander to us about how they will lower taxes?
There wouldn't be any political pressure to get politicians to pledge not to increase taxes?
I'm not buying the theory that the govt takes from us w/o reproach. ymmv
I may be wrong.
"We have to get past the awful legacy of the last 8 years." Bill Clinton, 3/21/2016, in Spokane, WA while on the campaign trail for Hillary.
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If you actual read the article, they blast the assumption that TPC said there would be "no economic growth". They do not refute the TPC facts; only TPC not including some hypothetical revenue growth from an improved economy. In argument, they MUST have economic growth to have a chance of being revenue neutral. In other words, the Cons are trying to once again con us with the notion that tax cuts, by themselves, generate economic growth. This remains, at very best, an unproven suggestion... Moreover, saying the the government must take the risk that the tax cut will leave them "revenue neutral" is an absurd investment proposition... why would we go from a known tax base to an unknown tax base, where the upside is where we are today? In essence, the cons want to once again cut taxes first on the HOPE it gets paid back later.
Sorry, this is a bill of goods that anyone paying attention or with half a brain can see right through. The fact of the matter is that the tax cut WILL cost the treasury known revenue (and therefore increase deficits, if not offset by other tax increases) and MAY be revenue neutral IF there is economic growth as a result.
... sorry, we have been there and done that. In the words of that snake oil salesman ".... fooled me once,........ya won't get fooled again."
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