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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Like hell it doesn't.
    dude. in the intel field, thats their job. asking whether or not an intel E3 has access to the secured networks is like asking if an infantry E3 has access to an M16.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post


    What the ****? So if you think Assange just dumped a bunch of classified files in a half-hearted attempt for 'transparency' and that Manning didn't break not only UCMJ but also his legal non-disclosure agreement, you're just being duped by the corporate media? Seriously?
    that;s what whisltes blowers do - they break laws and confidentiality agreements for HIGHER MORAL CAUSES

    What do you think should happen to the executioners in the helicopters who gunned down unarmed innocent Civilians?

    Did they break any laws?

    Who will be prosecuted for the 1.4 million Iraqi civilian deaths that were a direct and indirect result of ILLEGAL military actions by the USA?

    But as we all know, fascist rule doesnt recognise morals and laws does it mr OldWordlOrder?

    What do we do with the whistle blower Chemist who made authorities and the public aware of what the Tobacco corporations were putting into their cigarettes to accelerate the uptake and addiction to Nicotine?

    He had a non-disclosure agreement attached to his employment too.

    You seem to value one petty law that protects profits and criminals over higher morals and the general health and safety of the population who are unaware of what is going on.

    You do realise what that makes you dont you?

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Wikileaks didn't do a "half hearted attempt" at transparency. That's what they've been doing for longer than what they did with the US Docs. They've done the same thing with other countries also.
    Sure they did. If wikileaks was actually interested in total transparency, they'd reveal their "insurance" documents- those that they've threatened to release if Assange were ever tried. But they're not, because they believe in secrecy to advance their own purposes. Just like the governments they wish to repudiate.
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    that;s what whisltes blowers do - they break laws and confidentiality agreements for HIGHER MORAL CAUSES
    So? Someone said, in response to a poster talking about Manning leaking information, that that was what the corporate media wanted people to think. I responded that it's pretty factual, not dependent on 'the corporate media'. And you responded with...? Okay? Does that change the facts? No.

    What do you think should happen to the executioners in the helicopters who gunned down unarmed innocent Civilians?
    Nothing at all, obviously. They saw people with large equipment in a denied area that had just suffered an ambush.

    Did they break any laws?
    Nope. They're fine.

    Who will be prosecuted for the 1.4 million Iraqi civilian deaths that were a direct and indirect result of ILLEGAL military actions by the USA?
    1.4 million? Why not just make it a trillion? Anyway, no one will be prosecuted. Why should they be?

    But as we all know, fascist rule doesnt recognise morals and laws does it mr OldWordlOrder?
    Nope. Are you going to cry about it?

    What do we do with the whistle blower Chemist who made authorities and the public aware of what the Tobacco corporations were putting into their cigarettes to accelerate the uptake and addiction to Nicotine?
    I don't know or care.

    He had a non-disclosure agreement attached to his employment too.
    Then he should probably be prosecuted?

    You seem to value one petty law that protects profits and criminals over higher morals and the general health and safety of the population who are unaware of what is going on.
    Don't push your morals on me, please.

    You do realise what that makes you dont you?
    A corporate puppet?

    Yay! I was right! The conspiracy theorist thinks I'm a corporate puppet!
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post

    Nothing at all, obviously. They saw people with large equipment in a denied area that had just suffered an ambush.


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    Denied area?

    Thats what the Nazi Germans said when they occupied France and most of Europe.

    In fact, the Nazis classified the French resistance as a terrorist organisation

    Why did the USA invade IRaq again that has resulted in 1.4 million civilian deaths?

    Why are US oil corporations extracting oil in Iraq?

    Who the hell are you fascist imperialist murdering freaks?

    This is the Flag you honour and protect - looks a bit different from the flag that True Patriot Americans raise doesnt it!?

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    No, it looks the same. Why did the US kill a 3 billion Afghans?

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    dude. in the intel field, thats their job. asking whether or not an intel E3 has access to the secured networks is like asking if an infantry E3 has access to an M16.
    Thats not the point. I'm questioning the LEVEL and the VOLUME of information that Manning exposed. If we're supposed to believe that he had the same clearance and acces as the director of CIA, then I call bull****.
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Ummm...you aren't supposed to believe that. It's SIPRnet, dude.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Thats not the point. I'm questioning the LEVEL and the VOLUME of information that Manning exposed. If we're supposed to believe that he had the same clearance and acces as the director of CIA, then I call bull****.
    I can tell your Army service wasn't in Intel. He didnt have the same access as the director of CIA. But he did have access to SIPR and apparently JWICS, as most in Intel, even an E-1, would. I have over a decade with DIA under my belt. cpwill sounds like he has an intel background. We know what we are talking about, man.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Why the hell should they free Manning? Dude is a traitor.
    They shouldn't. He should be executed for espionage.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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