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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    You know, there's an entire thread for this. It's called the Conspiracy Theory thread. You can be there with the 9/11 doubters and the moon landing nutjobs and the UFO folks.
    We're not talking conspiracy here. We are enlightening those in the dark that in Capitalism/Corporatism the major media, whether it be print or digital sell their space to the highest bidder. That would be business. Assange released enbarrassing documents about the USA gov't and that is why they want to get him to Sweden so they can extradite him to the USA as an "enemy of the state." If a lack of intellectual curiousity has prevented you from confronting the truth, try sleeping on your right side with a walnut under the right ear and a round pebble between your big toe and your second toe. If it doesn't work, call it a conspiracy theory. It will surely make me feel better.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Manning didn't do that by himself. There's no way that a private first class, with less than 24 months time in service has that kind of access.
    As cpwill said, rank has little to do with access. The main issue is that it was so easy to download large amounts of information on to removable media. Removable media drives and ports should be disabled on those systems. It wouldn’t prevent leaks, but it would reduce the size of them by several orders of magnitude.

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    Freedom of speech does not mean freedom to steal classified documents and publish classified materials that may impact national security. Manning should remain in jail.
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    We're not talking conspiracy here. We are enlightening those in the dark that in Capitalism/Corporatism the major media, whether it be print or digital sell their space to the highest bidder. That would be business. Assange released enbarrassing documents about the USA gov't and that is why they want to get him to Sweden so they can extradite him to the USA as an "enemy of the state." If a lack of intellectual curiousity has prevented you from confronting the truth, try sleeping on your right side with a walnut under the right ear and a round pebble between your big toe and your second toe. If it doesn't work, call it a conspiracy theory. It will surely make me feel better.
    Is there a thread in which you don't bring up "the Great Wurlitzer"? Have you ever considered admitting yourself to a mental hospital?

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Video @: [/FONT][/COLOR]Assange Speaks to UN - YouTube

    Assange speaks to UN panel and calls on US, UK and Sweden and speaks to respect free speech, and protect whistle blowers, and to free Bradly Manning. Ecuador and others try to convince the US, UK, and Sweden to allow safe passage and go back to Sweden to try to clear up these "sexual acts" allegations.
    Espionage usually isn't protected by freedom of speech.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Espionage usually isn't protected by freedom of speech.
    Bradly Manning or Assange are spies?


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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Bradly Manning or Assange are spies?
    Stealing classified military information for the purpose of dissemination is the textbook definition of espionage.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Manning didn't do that by himself. There's no way that a private first class, with less than 24 months time in service has that kind of access.
    Doesn't have SIPR access? Uh...yeah, they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    We're not talking conspiracy here.
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    No, we aren't.

    Just you.
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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    not necessarily. Manning apparently was able to bring CD's into the SCIF claiming that they were music and walk right out with them, again and again and again. He had personality issues, so they put him in charge of disposing of classified documents.... meaning that everyone gave him all the classified documents they weren't using for their work anymore. It was a huge CI failure, and sadly I think one we have not fully corrected. When you reduce people in rank, you need to yank their access. With Manning, instead we put him in the perfect position to screw us over.
    I don't buy it. I've seen higher security protocols used to draw a copy of the CEOI from the supply room.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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