Page 5 of 31 FirstFirst ... 3456715 ... LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 304

Thread: Assange Speaks to UN

  1. #41
    Sage
    OldWorldOrder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Last Seen
    10-12-15 @ 12:13 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    5,820

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I should have included this link in the previous reply. Congress investigated ther CIA and the media in the late 70s and seemed to find about 400 CIA assets, agents, operatives operating as reporters, editors, etc. And much more. Do you think the CIA has changed or shrunk? Do you think the strategy has changed?


    Journalism and the CIA: The Mighty Wurlitzer
    \\

    So you're saying you don't know about the Church Committee?

    Look, to you intelligence services are something you see in movies and hear about in the news. To me, they're actual organizations with actual people that I have a vast amount of experience with. The things you're saying are fairly absurd.
    The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected.
    -GK Chesterton

  2. #42
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    virginia
    Last Seen
    04-01-13 @ 03:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    16,881
    Blog Entries
    19

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    \\

    So you're saying you don't know about the Church Committee?

    Look, to you intelligence services are something you see in movies and hear about in the news. To me, they're actual organizations with actual people that I have a vast amount of experience with. The things you're saying are fairly absurd.
    Wow!


  3. #43
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Last Seen
    10-28-17 @ 06:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    15,248

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Of course you realize that the Corporate Media is for sale to the highest bidder in a Capitalist/Corporate society. Print and digital media space is a commercial enterprise and you buy that space. The bigger and better the space, the more you pay. You could do your homework on the "Mighty Wurlitzer" and initiate some curiousity in the ol' cerebellum regarding some of that space being bought by Intelligence services, gov't, gov't agencies, contractors, etc., to massage those cranial interpretations as opposed to objectivity.
    You know, there's an entire thread for this. It's called the Conspiracy Theory thread. You can be there with the 9/11 doubters and the moon landing nutjobs and the UFO folks.
    "Groups with guitars are on the way out, Mr. Epstein"

    Dick Rowe, A & R man
    Decca Records
    London, 1962

  4. #44
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Last Seen
    10-28-17 @ 06:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    15,248

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    When I used to protest the american/vietnam war there were people just like you around, so I'm used to people from the radical right wing reactionary oppossition saying what you just said.

    But, yes I do see through the deception.
    Yet still you remain in this terrible country, taking advantage of everything it has to offer! And yeah, I somehow surmised that if you were old enough, you'd have been one of the cretins burning U.S. flags and flying those of North Vietnam.

    I'll make the same suggestion to you I made to your Socialist friend. Visit the Conspiracy Theory forum - you'll find lots of like minds there.
    "Groups with guitars are on the way out, Mr. Epstein"

    Dick Rowe, A & R man
    Decca Records
    London, 1962

  5. #45
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Last Seen
    10-28-17 @ 06:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    15,248

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Wow, the fear and loathing in your tone.
    Well, you got the loathing part right. He's a despicable piece of excrement, who ought to be in jail.
    "Groups with guitars are on the way out, Mr. Epstein"

    Dick Rowe, A & R man
    Decca Records
    London, 1962

  6. #46
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Last Seen
    10-28-17 @ 06:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    15,248

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    It was internal communications between ambassadors, consular staff, and other agents of the State Department and joint operations groups. Why wouldn't it be classified? It covered everything from secret US contacts with Morgan Tsvangerai in Zimbabwe, US business intelligence reports on activities in West Africa, to the US ambassadors opinions of politicians in the UK, and much more. It was not whistle blowing. If all Manning had done was release the video of the air strike in Baghdad then he probably would not be in the situation he is in, nor would Assange have the same level of criticism.
    Don't you know? Julian Assange will decide what is in the security interests of the United States and what isn't - ably assisted by his Far Left supporters.
    "Groups with guitars are on the way out, Mr. Epstein"

    Dick Rowe, A & R man
    Decca Records
    London, 1962

  7. #47
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:14 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,226

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    An egocentrist who highlighted the miserable failure of the US system that allowed a junior soldier to extract the largest set of restricted documents (250,000) that have ever leaked to the public. Ooops.

    Wikileaks confirmed what i already knew. That our purportedly open, freedom-loving democratic governments lie to us on a regular basis.

    Viva la truth.
    Manning didn't do that by himself. There's no way that a private first class, with less than 24 months time in service has that kind of access.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  8. #48
    Sage
    cpwill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    USofA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:57 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    57,073

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Manning didn't do that by himself. There's no way that a private first class, with less than 24 months time in service has that kind of access.
    ??? I've got several Marines who are E3's who are up on SIPR and JWICS. And Manning had a background as a hacker.

  9. #49
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:14 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,226

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    ??? I've got several Marines who are E3's who are up on SIPR and JWICS. And Manning had a background as a hacker.
    I bet they are very highly supervised.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  10. #50
    Sage
    cpwill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    USofA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:57 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    57,073

    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I bet they are very highly supervised.
    not necessarily. Manning apparently was able to bring CD's into the SCIF claiming that they were music and walk right out with them, again and again and again. He had personality issues, so they put him in charge of disposing of classified documents.... meaning that everyone gave him all the classified documents they weren't using for their work anymore. It was a huge CI failure, and sadly I think one we have not fully corrected. When you reduce people in rank, you need to yank their access. With Manning, instead we put him in the perfect position to screw us over.

Page 5 of 31 FirstFirst ... 3456715 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •