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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Is corporate media the new buzzword of the far left, guaranteed to be trotted out periodically when the facts don't support whatever anti-american rants are taking place?
    Naw, it's been around for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Except those of you on the far left, who see through this mass deception, right?
    When I used to protest the american/vietnam war there were people just like you around, so I'm used to people from the radical right wing reactionary oppossition saying what you just said.

    But, yes I do see through the deception.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Except that the federal government basically labelled all information they have on any foreign dignitaries as "Top Secret" no matter how trivial, so only an extremely small number of cables were actually hurtful.

    Assange does not deserve to be demonized for what he's been doing.
    There was no TS information released from what I remembered. It was merely information classified under the secret and private State Department and JWICS channels. He dumped everything he could find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    There was no TS information released from what I remembered. It was merely information classified under the secret and private State Department and JWICS channels. He dumped everything he could find.
    Very well. But my point is I don't think it's fair to demonize him for dumping all the classified material when the State Department basically classified everything they did.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Do you have any examples of intelligence services buying media space, Dave, or is this just one of those "You can't prove they haven't!" things?

    NYTimes-Judith Miller-Saddam has mobile WMD units. That's a flagrant example. They are not hard to find. You just have to remember what you are looking for. How aboiut all those Libya atrocities committed by Qaddaffi, allegedly. Check the sources.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Very well. But my point is I don't think it's fair to demonize him for dumping all the classified material when the State Department basically classified everything they did.
    It was internal communications between ambassadors, consular staff, and other agents of the State Department and joint operations groups. Why wouldn't it be classified? It covered everything from secret US contacts with Morgan Tsvangerai in Zimbabwe, US business intelligence reports on activities in West Africa, to the US ambassadors opinions of politicians in the UK, and much more. It was not whistle blowing. If all Manning had done was release the video of the air strike in Baghdad then he probably would not be in the situation he is in, nor would Assange have the same level of criticism.

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Wow, the fear and loathing in your tone.
    well, he does quote hunter s thompson in his sig....

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    well, he does quote hunter s thompson in his sig....
    As rodney dangerfield used to say, "That's very observatory of you".

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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Do you have any examples of intelligence services buying media space, Dave, or is this just one of those "You can't prove they haven't!" things?

    I should have included this link in the previous reply. Congress investigated ther CIA and the media in the late 70s and seemed to find about 400 CIA assets, agents, operatives operating as reporters, editors, etc. And much more. Do you think the CIA has changed or shrunk? Do you think the strategy has changed?


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    Re: Assange Speaks to UN

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    NYTimes-Judith Miller-Saddam has mobile WMD units. That's a flagrant example. They are not hard to find. You just have to remember what you are looking for. How aboiut all those Libya atrocities committed by Qaddaffi, allegedly. Check the sources.
    So what you're saying is that you think intelligence services bought that media space, but you have no evidence whatsoever.

    That's interesting.
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